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HEADS UP: Here's what the Dem's may be planning re: delaying the vote count. And why Nan had the continuity of government meeting, saying she'd be #2 in line for the Presidency. PART 2

I' d be happy to.

Normally, Congress adjourns for like never.

Section 5: Powers and Duties of Congress

Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members,and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; but a smaller Number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House may provide.

Neither House, during the Session of Congress, shall, without the Consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any other Place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting.

If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.

Section 3

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

This came up in the wake of Potus declaring to have the Constitutional power to do so ..... Because he has that power as is said in article 3.

https://www.law.com/nationallawjournal/2020/04/15/can-trump-force-congress-to-adjourn-theoretically-legal-experts-say-but-not-now/?slreturn=20200703141806

Note the topline:

President Donald Trump said he wants to adjourn Congress to make recess appointments. He can only do that if the chambers are in disagreement about when to adjourn—which they aren’t.

What if .... the Senate were to say: we are going to adjourn, and Nancy says: Are you crazy? (hihihihi). En even though Schumer may say: " Shut up Nancy" , he does not have a majority in the Senate. So, technically, then both houses do not agree on adjournment, right? So, who get' s to decide when to adjourn? Indeed, Potus Donald John Trump.

What happens when the Congress is adjourned? The dem House looses the power of the purse. They cannot interfere in the execution of the election, nor in the counting of the votes and the expedient reporting thereof. I am not sure if in such a case Potus can arrange for it, that is still under investigation.

Take a look at the 20A section 2

The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and such meeting shall begin at noon on the 3d day of January, unless they shall by law appoint a different day.

So, election day: Nov 3 -> till rd day of January. It will be very, very quiet in Washington DC.

BUT ....

With adjournment. There is no session. With no session, what happens to immunity?

Section 6: Rights and Disabilities of Members

The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States.They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

Auch!

When is a rep or a senator be considered having returned from session?

You wrote:

A legislative body adjourns sine die when it adjourns without appointing a day on which to appear or assemble again.

So, for adjournment there are two options: either mention the adjournment till January 3rd, or sine die, since the Constitution prevails and prescribes the new session has to start on January rd 2021, which is the 117th Congress and filled with new members. ....... Which means, the previous congress cannot finish business, which it could when the adjournment is postponed to January 3, since Jan 3 starts at 00:00 hours. So, there may be some time to play a few tricks.

Those are my thought. What do you think of it?

Excellent post and that is also why Ginsberg has to hang in their, any challenge to the SC would lose with her and Roberts.

Good point. If this gets thrown to SCOTUS over a constitutional crisis challenge, then RGB is critical - weekend at Bader's for sure. Robert's needs to be exposed for his romps to orgy island via the Maxwell case.

Here is the thing. If push comes to shove - the last resort move will be to play along and end up with the same uncounted results in the house as in the presidential elections!

The plan of the dems to use the House to vote for the President, is based on their assumptions that not only they have the House but generally - that the House elections are finished and votes counted. Here is the solution: it will be up to us to hang the House votes as well - if the presidential votes are not counted. It's like - you wanna delay presidential count - we gonna give it to you together with the uncounted House races: no quorum to vote for anything - let alone - who will be a president.

Problem Solved!

No one said it was a brilliant plan, but it is all they have at the moment. The Congressional District counts can be finalized without having to have the Senatorial or Presidential totals since those are statewide and could be hung up by a couple of precincts. That could theoretically give them a majority - that is assuming they get enough Democrat seats. If CA has been any indication due to special election seats flipping Republican, this could backfire on them tremendously. Voters in many of these areas are pissed and want change. The swamp may find it impossible to find that Democrat majority they would need in the House no matter how much they stuff the ballot box. We are on to them - think Chinese consulate shutdown in Houston - they were burning ballots. POTUS and company found out all their little tricks from the midterms and know where to target resources. We have Federal assets in all states - especially the hotspots. The next few months are definitely going to be interesting.

Perhaps. But there's also the inter-state compact which requires a bunch of states to put all their electoral votes in the pile for the popular vote winner. And don't forget that CA is 1) pushing for mail-in 2) does motor voter 3) does not require IDs to vote 4) and is stocked to the brim with illegals who probably won't show up to vote but are just a secret bit in the database away from "voting".

...the inter-state compact which requires a bunch of states to put all their electoral votes in the pile for the popular vote winner

That's called The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

Under National Popular Vote, states that combine for at least 270 electoral votes agree to award their electors to the presidential candidate who wins the most individual votes across the nation. (Fifteen states and the District of Columbia, totaling 196 electoral votes, have already passed the measure.)

In the 18 states currently without faithless elector laws, the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact would operate in a manner identical to the system that they have been using for over 200 years. In these states (which currently use the state-by-state winner-take-all method of awarding electoral votes), the presidential electors are chosen by the political party whose presidential candidate receives the most popular votes inside the state, and there are no additional requirements placed upon the elector.

The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact would operate in the same way, except that the presidential electors would be persons chosen by the political party whose presidential candidate receives the most popular votes across all 50 states and the District of Columbia.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/07/14/supreme-courts-faithless-electors-decision-validates-case-for-the-national-popular-vote-interstate-compact/

The electoral votes received by Congress are counted in a joint session at 1 p.m. on January 6. If a presidential or vice presidential candidate does not receive a majority of the electoral votes, the House selects the next president and the Senate selects the next vice president.

The 116th Congress' term (and Pelosi's speaker status) ends on January 3, 2020. Therefore, it will be the 117th Congress (including changes from the Nov.3 election) that has this responsibility. Makes retaking the House that much more important.

Very informative and important Post - thanks !

#CONTINUED FROM PART ONE: https://poal.co/s/QStorm/192168 **HEADS UP: Here's what the Dem's may be planning re: delaying the vote count. And why Nan had the continuity of government meeting, saying she'd be #2 in line for the Presidency. PART 2** ----- I' d be happy to. Normally, Congress adjourns for like never. Section 5: Powers and Duties of Congress Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members,and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; but a smaller Number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House may provide. Neither House, during the Session of Congress, shall, without the Consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any other Place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law. Section 3 He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States. This came up in the wake of Potus declaring to have the Constitutional power to do so ..... Because he has that power as is said in article 3. https://www.law.com/nationallawjournal/2020/04/15/can-trump-force-congress-to-adjourn-theoretically-legal-experts-say-but-not-now/?slreturn=20200703141806 Note the topline: President Donald Trump said he wants to adjourn Congress to make recess appointments. He can only do that if the chambers are in disagreement about when to adjourn—which they aren’t. What if .... the Senate were to say: we are going to adjourn, and Nancy says: Are you crazy? (hihihihi). En even though Schumer may say: " Shut up Nancy" , he does not have a majority in the Senate. So, technically, then both houses do not agree on adjournment, right? So, who get' s to decide when to adjourn? Indeed, Potus Donald John Trump. What happens when the Congress is adjourned? The dem House looses the power of the purse. They cannot interfere in the execution of the election, nor in the counting of the votes and the expedient reporting thereof. I am not sure if in such a case Potus can arrange for it, that is still under investigation. Take a look at the 20A section 2 The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and such meeting shall begin at noon on the 3d day of January, unless they shall by law appoint a different day. So, election day: Nov 3 -> till rd day of January. It will be very, very quiet in Washington DC. BUT .... With adjournment. There is no session. With no session, what happens to immunity? Section 6: Rights and Disabilities of Members The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States.They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place. Auch! When is a rep or a senator be considered having returned from session? You wrote: A legislative body adjourns sine die when it adjourns without appointing a day on which to appear or assemble again. So, for adjournment there are two options: either mention the adjournment till January 3rd, or sine die, since the Constitution prevails and prescribes the new session has to start on January rd 2021, which is the 117th Congress and filled with new members. ....... Which means, the previous congress cannot finish business, which it could when the adjournment is postponed to January 3, since Jan 3 starts at 00:00 hours. So, there may be some time to play a few tricks. Those are my thought. What do you think of it? ----- Excellent post and that is also why Ginsberg has to hang in their, any challenge to the SC would lose with her and Roberts. ---- Good point. If this gets thrown to SCOTUS over a constitutional crisis challenge, then RGB is critical - weekend at Bader's for sure. Robert's needs to be exposed for his romps to orgy island via the Maxwell case. ---- Here is the thing. If push comes to shove - the last resort move will be to play along and end up with the same uncounted results in the house as in the presidential elections! The plan of the dems to use the House to vote for the President, is based on their assumptions that not only they have the House but generally - that the House elections are finished and votes counted. Here is the solution: it will be up to us to hang the House votes as well - if the presidential votes are not counted. It's like - you wanna delay presidential count - we gonna give it to you together with the uncounted House races: no quorum to vote for anything - let alone - who will be a president. Problem Solved! ---- No one said it was a brilliant plan, but it is all they have at the moment. The Congressional District counts can be finalized without having to have the Senatorial or Presidential totals since those are statewide and could be hung up by a couple of precincts. That could theoretically give them a majority - that is assuming they get enough Democrat seats. If CA has been any indication due to special election seats flipping Republican, this could backfire on them tremendously. Voters in many of these areas are pissed and want change. The swamp may find it impossible to find that Democrat majority they would need in the House no matter how much they stuff the ballot box. We are on to them - think Chinese consulate shutdown in Houston - they were burning ballots. POTUS and company found out all their little tricks from the midterms and know where to target resources. We have Federal assets in all states - especially the hotspots. The next few months are definitely going to be interesting. ---- Perhaps. But there's also the inter-state compact which requires a bunch of states to put all their electoral votes in the pile for the popular vote winner. And don't forget that CA is 1) pushing for mail-in 2) does motor voter 3) does not require IDs to vote 4) and is stocked to the brim with illegals who probably won't show up to vote but are just a secret bit in the database away from "voting". ---- ...the inter-state compact which requires a bunch of states to put all their electoral votes in the pile for the popular vote winner That's called The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact Under National Popular Vote, states that combine for at least 270 electoral votes agree to award their electors to the presidential candidate who wins the most individual votes across the nation. (Fifteen states and the District of Columbia, totaling 196 electoral votes, have already passed the measure.) In the 18 states currently without faithless elector laws, the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact would operate in a manner identical to the system that they have been using for over 200 years. In these states (which currently use the state-by-state winner-take-all method of awarding electoral votes), the presidential electors are chosen by the political party whose presidential candidate receives the most popular votes inside the state, and there are no additional requirements placed upon the elector. The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact would operate in the same way, except that the presidential electors would be persons chosen by the political party whose presidential candidate receives the most popular votes across all 50 states and the District of Columbia. https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/07/14/supreme-courts-faithless-electors-decision-validates-case-for-the-national-popular-vote-interstate-compact/ ----- The electoral votes received by Congress are counted in a joint session at 1 p.m. on January 6. If a presidential or vice presidential candidate does not receive a majority of the electoral votes, the House selects the next president and the Senate selects the next vice president. The 116th Congress' term (and Pelosi's speaker status) ends on January 3, 2020. Therefore, it will be the 117th Congress (including changes from the Nov.3 election) that has this responsibility. Makes retaking the House that much more important. ---- Very informative and important Post - thanks !

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