The idea that conservatives should NOT vote out of frustration with lack of Progress.

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That is an idiotic thing to do. You never win after you have lost all ground by retreating, or stop fighting because you aren't making fast enough progress. That's the kind of thing the Dems and socialists dream of.

I'm seeing that crap being pushed on many "conservative" channels. As something conservatives should do, or will do, or might do out of protest.

Call it out as the BS it is. Never stop pushing, take every inch then push for the next one.

I am noticing this idea that conservatives who are not satisfied with the Republicans all plan to not vote, or should actively vote democrat to burn everything down and then rebuild after out of frustration. That is an idiotic thing to do. You never win after you have lost all ground by retreating, or stop fighting because you aren't making fast enough progress. That's the kind of thing the Dems and socialists dream of. I'm seeing that crap being pushed on many "conservative" channels. As something conservatives should do, or will do, or might do out of protest. Call it out as the BS it is. Never stop pushing, take every inch then push for the next one.

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We vote for candidates which claim to enact polices we support. The candidates do not enact said polices and in some cases actively work against them. Your solution is to keep voting for them anyways?

I see both sides of this argument. Assuming we take the lesser of two evils option like you suggest. Is there ever a point the populace should stand up and say, "No"? At what point do we use that leverage?

I'm genuinely conflicted on the issue.

One could say you are the psyop to get people to continue supporting candidates that do fuck all.

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I would say that one should not limit the scope to only voting in elections. Vote in elections, but also vote with ones dollar everyday. Politicians loyalty is clearly bought and paid for by xyz whoever, so don't give those people/companies money. Then they will have less money to spend on politicians.

Rome was not built in a day, or some really proactive people could get very rich and just start buying the politicians but for the side of good. Adopt the enemy tactics.

I definitely believe JUST voting won't solve anything by itself, but not voting won't help either.

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If Vivek Ramaswamy wins the primary in Ohio I will most certainly not be voting for him. The GOP needs to do better. Vivek is not acceptable.

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Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Maybe there is no political solution.

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There is not. Each (s)election results in something worse than the previous lot that ran the country.

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"The simple step of a courageous individual is to not take part in the lie." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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Not taking part in the lie and "voting" in a blatant, openly in-your-face, kike-controlled charade is the opposite of stopping fighting. To take part in the lie is acceptance of defeat and resorting to turning off and giving up to mindlessly play your part in their play.

Encouraging or shaming others into continuing to take part in the kikes' lie is the psyop. Doing so also reeks of jewish stand-down manipulative subversion in an effort to keep people from walking away from the crooked, kike-run card table.

Others can lack spines, courage and conviction and continue believing kike lies and taking part in the kikes' games and delude themselves into believing that doing so is "winning", but I will not.

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"By means of ever more effective methods of mind-manipulation, the democracies will change their nature; the quaint old forms - elections, parliaments, Supreme Courts and all the rest - will remain. The underlying substance will be a new kind of non-violent totalitarianism. All the traditional names, all the hallowed slogans will remain exactly what they were in the good old days. Democracy and freedom will be the theme of every broadcast and editorial - but democracy and freedom in a strictly Pickwickian sense. Meanwhile the ruling oligarchy and its highly trained elite of soldiers, policemen, thought-manufacturers and mind-manipulators will quietly run the show as they see fit."

Aldous Huxley - Brave New World Revisited
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If you think voting is going to fix all of your problems, then sit back and enjoy dystopia

In current year, being opposed to pedophilia is a political stance. In current year, displaying the flag of your own country is a political stance. In current year, desiring criminal acts to be punishable by law is a political stance. In current year, considering censorship as an evil act is a political stance.

You think there will be a dystopian future like all of the entertaining fiction you read? Wake up, you're in it.

Take the United Kingdom for example. They are a fully fledged Orwellian police state, with heavy surveillance at all times, critical speech routinely punished by law, and barbaric tyrannical enforcement.

And you know what, the United States isn't really all that far behind. We're almost nearly there with them. Free speech is all but eroded, cancel culture is a modernized, digital form of lynch mobs. Every single large public space in the digital realm is under heavy censorship, criminals are let go and not prosecuted, law abiding citizens trying to run a business are shut down and prosecuted, people trying to defend their life and property from communist terrorists literally trying to kill them are prosecuted and threatened with felonies.

The new normal is now locking everyone down, mandated masks under penalty of law. For children growing up today, this is their entire world and all they ever knew about the country, they will grow up and never know of a United States when liberty existed, and that means when that generation becomes the dominating work force, this country will be FUCKED beyond all redemption, because they will have never known the good that there was to desire and to defend, and so they will do nothing to try to bring it back.

The president is one man, and in the end the election over one man is fucking meaningless because this has all happened over the last 20 years and only continued to get worse.

If you think voting is going to fix all of your problems, then sit back and enjoy dystopia. There is a deep-rooted subversion of society and liberty that has festered since the start of the 1900's and it has sunk in so strongly that it will never be ripped out by an election.

>"*The simple step of a courageous individual is to not take part in the lie.*" >- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn ![embed](/static/images/55b94d85ab537d02.jpg) Not taking part in the lie and "voting" in a blatant, openly in-your-face, kike-controlled charade is the opposite of stopping fighting. To take part in the lie is acceptance of defeat and resorting to turning off and giving up to mindlessly play your part in their play. Encouraging or shaming others into continuing to take part in the kikes' lie is the psyop. Doing so also reeks of jewish stand-down manipulative subversion in an effort to keep people from walking away from the crooked, kike-run card table. Others can lack spines, courage and conviction and continue believing kike lies and taking part in the kikes' games and delude themselves into believing that doing so is "winning", but I will not. --- ![embed](/static/images/23133f2723332706.jpg) >"*By means of ever more effective methods of mind-manipulation, the democracies will change their nature; the quaint old forms - elections, parliaments, Supreme Courts and all the rest - will remain. The underlying substance will be a new kind of non-violent totalitarianism. All the traditional names, all the hallowed slogans will remain exactly what they were in the good old days. Democracy and freedom will be the theme of every broadcast and editorial - but democracy and freedom in a strictly Pickwickian sense. Meanwhile the ruling oligarchy and its highly trained elite of soldiers, policemen, thought-manufacturers and mind-manipulators will quietly run the show as they see fit.*" > >- **Aldous Huxley - Brave New World Revisited** >EPUB (334kb): https://web.archive.org/web/20210417200400/https://files.catbox.moe/kdeeif.epub >PDF (402kb): https://web.archive.org/web/20210417200109/https://files.catbox.moe/c03dza.pdf --- >If you think voting is going to fix all of your problems, then sit back and enjoy dystopia > >In current year, being opposed to pedophilia is a political stance. >In current year, displaying the flag of your own country is a political stance. >In current year, desiring criminal acts to be punishable by law is a political stance. >In current year, considering censorship as an evil act is a political stance. > >You think there will be a dystopian future like all of the entertaining fiction you read? Wake up, you're in it. > >Take the United Kingdom for example. They are a fully fledged Orwellian police state, with heavy surveillance at all times, critical speech routinely punished by law, and barbaric tyrannical enforcement. > >And you know what, the United States isn't really all that far behind. We're almost nearly there with them. Free speech is all but eroded, cancel culture is a modernized, digital form of lynch mobs. Every single large public space in the digital realm is under heavy censorship, criminals are let go and not prosecuted, law abiding citizens trying to run a business are shut down and prosecuted, people trying to defend their life and property from communist terrorists literally trying to kill them are prosecuted and threatened with felonies. > >The new normal is now locking everyone down, mandated masks under penalty of law. For children growing up today, this is their entire world and all they ever knew about the country, they will grow up and never know of a United States when liberty existed, and that means when that generation becomes the dominating work force, this country will be FUCKED beyond all redemption, because they will have never known the good that there was to desire and to defend, and so they will do nothing to try to bring it back. > >The president is one man, and in the end the election over one man is fucking meaningless because this has all happened over the last 20 years and only continued to get worse. > >If you think voting is going to fix all of your problems, then sit back and enjoy dystopia. There is a deep-rooted subversion of society and liberty that has festered since the start of the 1900's and it has sunk in so strongly that it will never be ripped out by an election.