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The World runs on C and in some part, though smaller, on C++. Rust can't keep up, despite the lies that it can. Python is a script, not a language and is hopelessly out matched when C does the same thing Python is doing. C#, Java, are you joking?

The idea is, the false push of all of the above but primarily the two first mentioned, is to prevent White children->adults from learning C. That's it. That's why colleges now not only don't teach C, but they hate on C like it's a boogeyman.C's problem isn't memory safety. C's problem is short-sighted programmers.

This become glaring when you look at things specifically from the C++ side. C++ is used in many game engines. Notably among them is the Unreal Engine. The problem is: the Unreal Engine is less optimized than a troon's gash. Then go back and read about John Carmack and the insane mathematical and programming leaps he made in efficiency for various games of the 90s. (seriously go read about it, it's an interesting read) and a number of others I can't recall.

That's type of thinking isn't taught anymore, and it's not done anymore for multiple reasons. One is that people are lazy and greedy (one, kek) and two because they're never actually taught in a rigorous way on ho to fundamentally design algorithms to solve problems.

Now, none of this is to say I'm against either; I'm not. But I am against them being taught in place of C.

  • Last thing, I think it was posted here but I forget... There are schools around the World that are extremely private and costly. They don't have digital submersion or whatever. They don't integrate digital <thing> into note taking, for the classroom board, attendance, course anything. Because (((they))) know, technology makes you a fucking retard (source: me). How do these fit together with the first 80% of this thread? Think it over (had you gone to one of those private schools you would understand).

e: should have mentioned (((javascript))), woops.

The World runs on C and in some part, though smaller, on C++. Rust can't keep up, despite the lies that it can. Python is a script, not a language and is hopelessly out matched when C does the same thing Python is doing. C#, Java, are you joking? The idea is, the false push of all of the above but primarily the two first mentioned, is to prevent White children->adults from learning C. That's it. That's why colleges now not only don't teach C, but they hate on C like it's a boogeyman.C's problem isn't memory safety. C's problem is short-sighted programmers. This become glaring when you look at things specifically from the C++ side. C++ is used in many game engines. Notably among them is the Unreal Engine. The problem is: the Unreal Engine is less optimized than a troon's gash. Then go back and read about John Carmack and the insane mathematical and programming leaps he made in efficiency for various games of the 90s. (seriously go read about it, it's an interesting read) and a number of others I can't recall. That's type of thinking isn't taught anymore, and it's not done anymore for multiple reasons. One is that people are lazy and greedy (one, kek) and two because they're never actually taught in a rigorous way on ho to fundamentally design algorithms to solve problems. Now, none of this is to say I'm against either; I'm not. But I am against them being taught in place of C. * Last thing, I think it was posted here but I forget... There are schools around the World that are extremely private and costly. They don't have digital submersion or whatever. They don't integrate digital <thing> into note taking, for the classroom board, attendance, course anything. Because (((they))) know, technology makes you a fucking retard (source: me). How do these fit together with the first 80% of this thread? Think it over (had you gone to one of those private schools you would understand). e: should have mentioned (((javascript))), woops.
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Totally agree and not even a programmer. Failed out of C, becoase programming is not my thing or my mindset. But C just works. It Reminds me of Steve Gibson (to look him up pleebs) he writes everything in assembly. Why? Because he fucking can. And it’s 1000x smaller. Maybe you have to be some savant to do assembly (again I’m not a programmer) I know assembly takes 100x lines of code, to do what C does in 10.

It also forces you to not depend on prebuilt functions. That does speed you up, but again makes you lazy.

I’m not saying fuck C and go to assembly, but there is some history in it all and lessons to be learned. When memory was tight assembly won.

Depending on all the prebuilt snippets allows for code injection that many can’t audit. Much like apps that have prebuilt tracking.

I digress. But do agree C is being removed because it works, and smooth brain faggots can’t grasp c. Yeah I called myself a smooth brain faggot. But I don’t code in any language. I have in the past hacked code to make it work for something I specifically needed, but that’s not my game.

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I’m not saying fuck C and go to assembly, but there is some history in it all and lessons to be learned. When memory was tight assembly won.

You can do both. You can interop assembly in C, quite a lot of the original Linux kernel was pure assembly.

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I like how in C and C++, you can break out into assembly.

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What if, as Ken Thompson spoke about in 1984 when receiving his Turing Award, all compilers are compromised and are used to backdoor any programs they compile? If this were true, wouldn't the conspiracy be safe to pursue its agenda if not one modern programmer had the smarts to find the compromised code and simply adopted the tools without question?

Perhaps that is what happened here. It's plausible if you think about the stakes involved. If you have only script-kiddie-level programmers who don't know C, C++ or Assembly, who will stand a chance at finding the backdoors? The black ops that made this happen could be assured that they could get into any code they wanted to and manipulate it with whatever payload they added at compile time. This would backdoor everything and we'd never know it. I say it's already been done and we are living in it now. Hell it's probably baked into microcode and baseband firmware too. Trust nothing because you can't find that which does not exist at the level at which we can see things.

Is C/C++/Assembly not being taught to keep us from probing too deeply? Food for thought. Go read Ken Thompson's warning about this. It's eye-popping.

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https://cs155.stanford.edu/papers/thompson.pdf For anyone curious about what Ken Thompson said.

If you have only script-kiddie-level programmers who don't know C, C++ or Assembly, who will stand a chance at finding the backdoors?

That's spoton, though. In my opinion, anyway. Assembly is literal substitution of binary, that's it. There's no place to hide. If you know it, but that's why my point and post exist, so yes.

e: I have no idea if that's the correct paper, but whatever, have a read.

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gotta start somewhere

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If they were used for that;

CS101: introduction to scripting, logic, conditions, syntax ...

Absolutely. That isn't what's happening, though.

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Well, I agree. C and C++ are casualties of an agenda. C and C++ requires skill no longer taught because niggers can't figure out how to program it. I still actively use it, because it works. Fuck all interpreted languages. Fuck highly typed languages.

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OP is correct.

Perl is my go to for most stuff. I learned C and C++ in school so Perl was easy. Not to mention you need a C compiler to compile Perl. If I need to interact with the hardware, it has to be C or C++ (or Assembler) and that is what I think they want to stop for some odd reason.

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That's fair. I don't care what language you use, but after you get some fundamentals with whatever, so logic, if else, while, for, scope, etc. Then learn a bit of C to get 'under the hood' and the go to whatever your language of choice is. That big of C learning will always transfer over.

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That is how it should be. If an employer goes one way...cool. Most of the time most IT shops start out with something because the first crew had those skills on hand. Be it C/C++, .NET, etc.

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It's the same as the reason behind the lie of "WE TOTALLY NEED IPV5!!!", nah, we don't. internet: network of networks

IPv6: everythign has a accessible address. Where the (((IETF))) u sed the EUI-64 where your MAC address was used to form your GUA. Which then means: show up in target and touch wifi - you are now known, and more. IPv6 is fully jewish. IPv4 is more than enough to cover the World more than IPv6. One layer of NAT gives a theoretical 4.3billion ^ (4.3 billion)

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Exactly. I still haven't been at any job that has implemented IPv6. Some partial for some [some reason] but not 100% across the environment.

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Take it even further: program in Assembly, like the original "Rollercoaster Tycoon".

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There's a video on jtube that goes over the history of programming languages, and the start with binary, before assembly. Must have been a nightmare.

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Also, it was done by ONE GUY. I'm convinced he taught himself how to think in Assembly rather than write it out and translate it then copy that translation into Assembly. Regardless of how he actual wrote it, the game runs smoothly. It would even run smoothly on old systems (considered old at that time) when it first came out.

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I think assembly being ultra hard and only usable by savants is a well spread exaguration. It persists because so few people learn assembly, probably because they a priori assume that they wont be able to. Assembly is hard but it not as hard as its rumored to be. At least thats my impression.

I'm not saying that I'm not impressed by Rollercoaster Tycoon though.