Interesting discussion. https://pic8.co/sh/3yB289.png This seems pretty damn fair to me. Much of the goodness of Lisp-family languages has made it to newer languages, though it's taken decades to happen. While I do agree that the functional features of Python feel crude/clumsy from my perspective, Python is a ***one way and only one way*** kind of language. (They don't want you making things that already exist.) Scheme has continued to evolve, as has Racket, and a few newer Lisp dialects have sprung up with varying amounts of success over the decades: Clojure, Janet, and others. Common Lisp is blessed/cursed with a standard from the 1990s, and all the innovations are happening in popular libraries.