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I can't believe they think this is a good idea.

I can't believe they think this is a good idea.

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So your choice is to vote for the Dems or the Dems of 20 years ago. That's what you believe is getting close to political and philosophical truth?

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That is an excellent question!

I really appreciate this question because it is the entry point into the topic. I won't be able to summarize my thoughts well enough here as I have not written much on the topic yet, so let me try this:

I am basing my opinion on the following assumptions:

1) There is no such thing as different economic systems. All that there is this:

TRADE. You pick up a thing and you own it. I pick up a thing and I own it. We decide to exchange these things, the process of exchange is called price discovery.

Increase the number of people freely trading and you invent value through price discovery, exchange medium (currency, whether it be sea shells or giant rai stones of the pacific), banking, fractional reserve, etc.

Add to the mix third parties that want a cut without playing fair and you get 1 or more people inventing rules of trade, taxes, litigation, gun fights, etc.

So, trade and private property are immutable properties of the universe, no matter how many rules you apply, how you group the rules, how you label the rules can you ever make those features of the universe go away. You can create dictatorships such as communism and outlaw private property and trade, but you cannot get rid of those intrinsic properties of the universe.

All economic labels are merely labels for arbitrary groupings of rules of trade, each grouping of rules of trade are defined by a group of people that want a cut of the business without doing anything in return.

If you work your way through all of that, what ends up happening is that the most efficient economies are those that allow the maximum amount of freedom to trade at the minimum amount of cost. This pushes price discovery down to the individual level maximizing the computing power of the population. Any set of rules of trade that move away from that increase cost of each transaction, reduce the total computing power available in the economy and centralizes the wealth generated.

2) Value systems - just like above, there are no such things as left value systems, right value systems, centrism, etc. I have never met anyone that fits exclusively into any category. Everyone says they are a concservative or a leftist or centrist or whatever, but if you dig into it, everyone seems to have the following value system diagram (this is highly simplified, i have a more detailed description of this for writeup elsewhere):

  • the individual - no rules apply, an individual must survive at all costs in order to useful to them selves and others.

  • the family - everything is shared, from those that can to those that need it.

  • the clan - not quite as free, some freebies between people but people start to trade things and calculate value.

  • the town / country - not free at all, all trade is highly rigid with value calculated and tracked to high degrees of precision.

SUMMARY:

Okay, there is a lot more that I can write about this and it may be time to start thinking about writing a book or something. For now, this is as simple as I can describe the following idea:

ABSOLUTE - There is a minimum absolute set of economic values that are universal: trade and private property are immutable properties of our universe.

ABSOLUTE - There are no political value systems, there is only a progressive set of vale exchanges people are willing to make that center at the invidual and radiate out through family, tribe, country.

In other words, the reason america is the beacon of freedom on the planet because it is the only country that has managed to figure out those two absolutes and has prioritized them as key targets of pursuit.

The entire political calculation in america is precisely that dual conversation: how close can we get to the minimum amount of rules to enable trade and private property AND how close can we get to a set of rights to guarantee the freedom of the individual, their family and their tribe.

In that context, Democracts represent true evil. They are the third person coming into a transaction between two people and trying to impose their personal opinion on something that has nothing to do with them. It is the Democract demons that want to walk into a family and tell everyone how to think and behave.

Now, the Republicans are supposed to be the beacon of the economic and political minimums necessary for maximizing human happyness and freedom. Unfortunately, they are basically just Democrats lite.

BUT! THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WHY THE AMERICAN TWO PARTY SYSTEM IS THE GREATEST OF ALL ON THE PLANET. Americans are the only civilzation on earth to have successfully identified the two abstract properties of the universe + natural value systems of our species and created a political system of good vs evil. The Democrats are demons trying to destroy america, we now just have to take over the GOP and get rid of the traitors and Democrats in disguise and make it the beacon of good that they are supposed to be.

All other political systems are either an admission by those countries that they don't have a people that care about what is true and right and therefore have created political systems that cannot make decisions or are totalitarian regimes where a group has decided to impose its will on others.

This entire endeavour of ours is just a group calculation around do we let people trade freely or do we want to tell people how to trade.

America has it right. Don't get me started on the american constitution, the single most important document in the history of human written civilization.

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Your whole system hinges on: trade and private property are immutable properties of our universe. The arguments you make in support of these claims seems quite weak.

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That is becaause I provided no support for the claims. I made the claims and provided my perspective on why I used those claims to value the two party political system in america (with a heavy nod to all that american civilization has accomplished most importantly providing the world a copy of the american constituation).

I'm not trying to convince you, provide indepth argumentation nor write an essay. I'm just having a conversation and providing the bare minimum verbiage for why I really like the american two party system.