I'm willing to entertain this. You are dangerously close to engaging the other circuitry in your head that can help move this game forward. So, there is a technique I developed where I trained my tech teams to be brutally honest during evaluation. And by brutally honest, no one here has any clue how rough the language could get. But, what I discovered were two things: a) The techs just dropped all swearing and all confrontational language and became hugely collaborative. b) There was also a flaw in the training, and the flaw was this: the team ended up ONLY discussing negatives and problems. I had to teach them to to include enough positive feedback to balance out the negativity because psychologically the human mind needs both goal posts in order how to adjust course. So far, you have engaged ONLY on the negative. Yes, we know. Nothing ever works, everything has been tried, it's all pointless, get your guns, I'm pretending to not be a glowie, godoaterror.gif. Got it. I have engaged on the positive and could expand further on the positive, which would include the two key strategies for filtering for leadership and at least one key strategy on how to think about decision making during the process. Why don't you engage on the positive and propose a few alternative ways on what we ought to do, organize, engage, etc. Let's hear some of that.