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I realize America is at a frustrating crossroads right now. Its an inflection point. I think you and a lot of others have done well to keep a level head about all the crazy shit federal, state, and local governments, and their various enforcers, NGOs, and enablers have done and outrages they've committed against American citizens (in addition to internationalisms crimes against Britons, Aussies, and our other western brothers).

If you want to know when the dam will break at a regional or national level, here is my level best assessment:

  1. power goes out for more than a week, or two weeks at most during a hot period in summer.

  2. communications black out for the same amount of time across a large region

  3. there is food disruption (everyone misses 3-4 meals), even if it is only promised as "temporary". This one I'm not even sure about.

Understand what the dam is: Its not "waiting for one event so everyone acts all at once."

Its fear vs deprivation, not outrage vs ambivalence.

Everyone is saying "will this or that event do it?"

No it wont. How it works is,

  1. when people reach a certain level of dissatisfaction, discomfort, or pain. (deprivation)

  2. in a news-cycle length emergency or abnormal political atmosphere

  3. where the conditions cause sufficient people to be thoroughly aggitated that one group takes it out on the other

  4. then people will start looking for other groups to blame.

  5. Then all the outrages come to the fore, the excesses, and crimes of a particular side.

Like taking lid off a "pressure cooker" environment.

Electricity, food, communications, those are all lids.

It requires at least a weeks worth of 'cooking' to get it right, but thats just the minimum.

To be sure, give it 2 weeks, though 3 is a stretch.

Additionally, it can be approached in two ways:

  1. promise "hope" (police reinforcements, or national guard) and continualy deny it or delay it.

  2. demoralize and make it look like everyone is completely and utterly on their own to foster a sense of "lawlessness and anarchy."

Thats the precise 'recipe and ingredient' list needed to cause any large scale fighting or civil conflict. nothing outside that will lead to conflict.

It's fear (of everything the left does, can do, or provides the illusion it can do) to people if they act against them, vs. deprivation in an emergency (and who to blame). Thats what it will take for the public to act in any meaningful capacity, and nothing less than that.

This is not an incitement, instructions, or any form of encouragement, only an analysis of the public sentiment.

I realize America is at a frustrating crossroads right now. Its an inflection point. I think you and a lot of others have done well to keep a level head about all the crazy shit federal, state, and local governments, and their various enforcers, NGOs, and enablers have done and outrages they've committed against American citizens (in addition to internationalisms crimes against Britons, Aussies, and our other western brothers). If you want to know when the dam will break at a regional or national level, here is my level best assessment: 1. power goes out for more than a week, or two weeks at most *during a hot period in summer*. 2. communications black out for the same amount of time across a large region 3. there is food disruption (everyone misses 3-4 meals), even if it is only promised as "temporary". This one I'm not even sure about. Understand what the *dam* is: Its not "waiting for one event so everyone acts all at once." Its fear vs deprivation, **not** outrage vs ambivalence. Everyone is saying "will this or that event do it?" No it wont. How it works is, 1. when people reach a certain *level* of dissatisfaction, discomfort, or pain. (deprivation) 2. in a news-cycle length emergency or abnormal political atmosphere 3. where the conditions cause sufficient people to be thoroughly aggitated that one group takes it out on the other 4. then people will start looking for other groups to blame. 5. Then all the outrages come to the fore, the excesses, and crimes of a particular side. Like taking lid off a "pressure cooker" environment. Electricity, food, communications, those are all lids. It requires at least a weeks worth of 'cooking' to get it right, but thats just the minimum. To be sure, give it 2 weeks, though 3 is a stretch. Additionally, it can be approached in two ways: 1. promise "hope" (police reinforcements, or national guard) and continualy deny it or delay it. 2. demoralize and make it look like everyone is completely and utterly on their own to foster a sense of "lawlessness and anarchy." Thats the **precise** 'recipe and ingredient' list needed to cause any large scale fighting or civil conflict. **nothing** outside that will lead to conflict. It's fear (of everything the left does, can do, or provides the illusion it can do) to people if they act against them, vs. deprivation in an emergency (and who to blame). Thats what it will take for the public to act in any meaningful capacity, and *nothing less than that*. This is not an incitement, instructions, or any form of encouragement, only an analysis of the public sentiment.

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It seems like there needs to be a single leader with a group of supporters to rally people against the current unelected mafia. No such person exists.

A single leader is a single point of failure. A weak link.

I think theres a lot of people out there with potential, if they have the good logistics and a sound message and strategy.

The premise is simple: a single leader can be destroyed. Look at matt gaetz. Taken out of the game because he was a distraction to the false front and puppet that Desantis is. That was the essential reason they went after gaetz. He was competition. And mark my words, when 2024 comes, Desantis will have beat out cruz, and win the primary for GOP "presidential candidate". Of course these are all show elections, and the GOP exists to keep the right in line and keep its seat at the table of power run by the DNC, and foreign powers, but we all know that at this point.

A single leader can be destroyed, a movement of many voices, each with their own supporters/following, united with a common message and strategy, is harder to destroy, because the state has to expose itself, make itself obvious, and it risks making martyrs because if it takes out ,1 ,5, even 10 leaders, it draws more attention, not less, to the remaining movement. In mass politics, awareness is what drives recruitment and message spread.

It's why the federal agencies are forced to infiltrate larger movements and attempt to steer/control them. If a movement and its core supporters understand their playbook from the beginning, and incorporate counter-intelligence policies, training, and strict discipline on information control (by the social structure of the movement), then leaks become hard, and poisoning the well becomes difficult, and manufacturing pretexts to shut down the organization becomes opportunities to draw public attention (and ire) against the funding/powers of those agencies.

Internal policy and policing is vastly more important than external public support, because public support (vital to the success of mass political parties) flows from internal unity of action and goals.

The playbook the state uses against that, is sowing organizational paranoia, drama, conflict, doubt, uncertainty about who to trust, etc. The left typically overcomes this by 1. promoting blind hatred of authorities, so any conflicts the state or others do spread, can be redirected, 2. appointing 'charismatic' promoters/rally leaders and using cult indoctrination to create a sort of 'faith' against externally created doubt.

I suspect the way the right could do the same is to follow the christian identity movement explicitly. As for secular methodology, I'm not sure, but I think if poal and the right thinks about it long enough, we'll come up with something to counter disinformation/division tactics/FUD.

It doesn't seem like anybody is going to do anything until there is a financial collapse that could cause any of the three problems you listed.

Its why its so important, that besides ammo, you stock pile food.

Preferably work with a church on a charity. Because the communists use the same tactics for "state charity" programs. They get in, they control who gets favors.

If you have the ability to distribute food in a panic/collapse, you have the ability to direct and call up a vast body of reserve volunteers, such as for militias/security brigades.

What will decide who wins in the next collapse, assuming a foreign adversary provokes one here in the u.s. (or other western nation), is NOT who has the most guns.

Its who has the most food and most organization. You get the second using the first.