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I doubt there will be nukes.

On account of the fact the u.s. military would get steamrolled in ukraine without them.

It's why the u.s. is arming the separatists.

You think biden, his circle of jewish warhawks and the shitshow running the pentagon wouldn't immediately show up, brass balls in tow, squaking for a real fight if they thought they could get away with it? Of course they would. 1. nothing to lose in terms of lives if they thought they could win 2. money to be made, if they thought they could win.

And yet, here the u.s. is, arming separatists.

Because the u.s. can't win in that theater, and thats not the intention anyway.

The intention is to suck russia into a provocation that makes it look like russia is the aggressor. Thats pretty much the only way the u.s. will be able to justify rallying nato.

The right move here is for russia to meet tit for tat and arm their own separatists. And also to fund u.s. journalists abroad to document u.s. backed insurgents and any war crimes those insurgents commit.

This is still a war of perceptions on the international stage. Of course it wouldn't look like that from the Russian perspective. It would look like another life-and-death encirclement by toothless u.s. proxy, nato. And that "life-or-death" perception is what u.s. war planners are counting on to cause the russians to react first.

Maybe I'm mistaken though.

Maybe if the russians don't act first, the administration of the u.s, soon up to its eyeballs in a collapsing economy, and desperate for a distraction, takes it as a green light to overstep its bounds even further. Maybe the old order of u.s based internationalism sees this as moment that will decide between its hegemony in a unipolar world going forward for a little while longer (a few decades of "empty gas tank / running on fumes" diplomacy), or what finally ushers in the beginnings of a multipolar regime of competing powers.

I doubt there will be nukes. On account of the fact the u.s. military would get steamrolled in ukraine without them. It's why the u.s. is arming the separatists. You think biden, his circle of jewish warhawks and the shitshow running the pentagon wouldn't immediately show up, brass balls in tow, squaking for a real fight if they thought they could get away with it? Of course they would. 1. nothing to lose in terms of lives if they thought they could win 2. money to be made, if they thought they could win. And yet, here the u.s. is, arming separatists. Because the u.s. can't win in that theater, and thats not the intention anyway. The intention is to suck russia into a provocation that makes it look like russia is the aggressor. Thats pretty much the only way the u.s. will be able to justify rallying nato. The right move here is for russia to meet tit for tat and arm their own separatists. And also to fund u.s. journalists abroad to document u.s. backed insurgents and any war crimes those insurgents commit. This is still a war of perceptions on the international stage. Of course it wouldn't look like that from the Russian perspective. It would look like another life-and-death encirclement by toothless u.s. proxy, nato. And that "life-or-death" perception is what u.s. war planners are counting on to cause the russians to react first. Maybe I'm mistaken though. Maybe if the russians don't act first, the administration of the u.s, soon up to its eyeballs in a collapsing economy, and desperate for a distraction, takes it as a green light to overstep its bounds even further. Maybe the old order of u.s based internationalism sees this as moment that will decide between its hegemony in a unipolar world going forward for a little while longer (a few decades of "empty gas tank / running on fumes" diplomacy), or what finally ushers in the beginnings of a multipolar regime of competing powers.

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Aren't the 🇷🇺 cozy with China?

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Aren't the 🇷🇺 cozy with China?

I wouldn't call it cozy. Imagine being russia. 1.3 billion chinese right on your doorstep. Thats gotta be unnerving.

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That could play out for Americans unfortunately. Yea. I'll keep a pulse on this.

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Once again, russians and americans have something in common.

The ideal series of events is russian powers and american powers would ally against china, enough to start a three way. And then russia backs out the last minute and allows americas ruling power and chinas ruling power to annihilate each other.

Russias government is no doubt despots and terribly corrupt, as is the very nature of power itself, but it is infinitely preferable to globohomo, and if the russians are smart they realize this and the position they play as the countervailing force against it.

And were china out of the way by itself, it would leave america to take up the slack, signficantly invigorated by the removal of competition, which would probably eventually spell the end of civilization and a long slow decline--precisely because the totalitarian strains and style of the u.s. is following in the footsteps of the chinese. Likewise if americas rulers were gone, instead leaving a vacuum for china to step in.

Unfortunately, whatever the tendencies of the russians as leaders, if anything of rationality in leadership is to remain on the globe, it is an absolute survival imperative that the leadership of china, the u.s., and israel, be crushed. The russians are the only ones who remotely balanced their demographic problems that I can see. Have kept some semblance of peace in their territories, and any semblance of tradition and culture. In a world at war, that is not merely a feat of skill, thats a small miracle. Hell, even in aperteid israel, the most ruthless people to have ever lived, they can't even control their rate of homosexuality and STDs. Their government collapsed into new elections, twice, in less than what, four years?

Fine, you may even call me a pro-russian shill, a duganist, or other label. I don't care.

I've seen american leadership. And all it has done is absolutely destroyed our culture, destroyed our families, our beliefs, and stabbed us in the back till america has nearly bled to death financially, economically, industrially, militarily, socially, culturally, and spiritually.

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Briliant, you had me at muh.

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Briliant, you had me at muh.

lol.

old memes are old.

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I've stopped concerning myself with what the governance is doing, they arent valid anyway.

I will continue on my path, without them. I hope something new emerges, worth caring about.

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Cynical

And you do not consider that both sides are simply playing a game? Or that both sides are controlled by the same entities?

I shit more cynicism than you have.

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Or that both sides are controlled by the same entities?

This is a constant thought actually.

Cynicism is a private consideration. It's good for keeping a sober mind about the world. Too much of it just demoralizes people.

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Pretending that you are superior and that you have to treat everyone else as children is simply narcissism. Perhaps you should stop trying to play this game, because you suck at it.

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Pretending that you are superior and that you have to treat everyone else as children is simply narcissism.

Actually I was explaining my thinking. Whats with the hostile overture out of the blue?

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How would the US get steamrolled in Ukraine?

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In a conventional war? They are too far from home and too close to Russia.

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It's the 21st century. The US creampied Britain in the 18th century, but that wouldn't have gone down the same if it happened in the 21st.

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I saw it written a while back and explained like so: The u.s. prepared technologically to 1. be able to find the enemy, and 2. avoid detection.

The russians just built a fuck ton of artillery and heavy weaponry so they wouldn't have to find the enemy. They'd just flatten areas where their enemies are hiding.

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That's what we should've been doing to the middle east.

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Second comment so far in relation to the middle east.

Whats on your mind?

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The intention is to suck Russia into a provocation that makes it look like Russia is the aggressor.

Like Russia has never been the agressor. Honestly, you need a healthy helping of cynicism.

Russia illegally annexed a good portion of the Crimean peninsula in 2014, invaded Ukraine and Georgia, murdered people and occupied sovereign nations. It is in direct violation of several treaties such CFE Treaty, Open Skies Treaty, the Vienna Document on Confidence and Security Building Measures and other arms control and non-proliferation regimes not to menation war crimes. How about shooting down civilian planes like MH17?

No one is flexing on the Russian federation though because there will be consequences, unlike flexing on the cockroaches in the middle east.

And also to fund u.s. journalists abroad to document u.s. backed insurgents and any war crimes those insurgents commit.

Russia plays this game as well. They pay off Islamic Chechen rebels to destabilise the area so they can lay pipe for oil, whilst failing to maintain basic education and health care for a good number of their own citizenry. Kadyrov is paid to be a Pro-Russian North Caucasus Islamic insurgency group to Russia can rape resources from neighbouring nations.

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From what I understand Odessa et al were and are traditionally russian territory. That said, thats an old playbook for war if ever I saw it.

I got to stop you on the "russia illegally" anything. Gotta be realistic here. There is no law when it comes to international survival and the u.s. has been trying to illegally encircle russia with "defensive" missile installations for years. A violation of the spirit of MAD if anything, but thats to be expected. The russians are certainly developing hypersonics. Well, everyone is, who can blame em?

No one is flexing on the Russian federation though because there will be consequences

There will certainly be consequences, consequences all around, some more than others. Nature of the world.

Russia plays this game as well. They pay off Islamic Chechen rebels to destabilise the area so they can lay pipe for oil

Fair enough.

Russia can rape resources from neighboring nations.

"rape"?

Hyperbole. If I wanted to be argumentative I'd accuse you of having an agenda or bias.

I'm not by any stretch of the imagination a great fan of russias subversions in my country (the u.s.). And yet even I can see theres been a push to "get russia" from an international coalition of sorts, for some time.

Maybe I don't know enough about the situation, of russia, or maybe I'm misinformed.

Enlighten me.

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Jesus fucking christ. Imagine being the largest country in the world, 1/6 of all land mass, and still need more. All that hutzpah about protecting russians in ukraine is exactly that - chutzpah. They don't give a shit about their own countrymen, many people in remote regions live in it is 1910's, with no gas and light, cities except Moscow and SPB are depressing places where there are no opportunities, and constant migration of tajiks, azers, other scum from different -stans is never stopping. How that different from nigger invasions in the west? Exactly the same.

Russia is a jew worshipping shithole and you have got to be a blind retard not to know this. Putin is Bibi's best friend, antisemitism and Holohoax denial gets you prison sentence. Ethnic nationalism is outlawed as 'extremism' and there are no ethnic nationalists in Russia at all. The same goes with ukraine, another victim of the jews. Habad Lubavitch infested hell, a new Jerusalem, and the politics of both countries are pure circus, dedicated to killing off the best and bravest of both nations. Only a fool would pick a side in this theatrical 'conflict'. The jews think of eastern Ukraine as theirs, because it used to be parts of Khazaria. No Russian or Ukrainian gain anything from this 'war', only the jews.

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hey don't give a shit about their own countrymen,

Then why do they outlaw globohomo?

Because they "don't care."

What were you expecting rainbows and a welcoming committee for ex-pat russians?

1910's, with no gas and light, cities except Moscow and SPB are depressing places where there are no opportunities

They live in the frigid ass crack of the world, went through an internal dissolution, and were only industrialized by force over a couple of decades. What did you expect?

and constant migration of tajiks, azers, other scum from different -stans is never stopping.

Thats a bigger problem that I have no answer for.

Russia is a jew worshipping shithole and you have got to be a blind retard not to know this.

Or not a russian. Which I'm not. But if you are, tell me more.

Putin is Bibi's best friend

I think ever nation, if it doesn't want to turn into the next "hitler!" plays nice with israel, the worlds largest criminal syndicate.

antisemitism and Holohoax denial gets you prison sentence.

See my previous statement.

Ethnic nationalism is outlawed as 'extremism'

Tell me more if you know more.

' and there are no ethnic nationalists in Russia at all.

I highly doubt that, otherwise what need is there for laws outlawing ethnic nationalism?

Habad Lubavitch infested hell, a new Jerusalem, and the politics of both countries are pure circus,

Do a write up, or make a post going into detail. Many of us would appreciate it.

Only a fool would pick a side in this theatrical 'conflict'.

If russia loses, its the nail in the coffin for any factions in the u.s. that have even so much as a whiff of anti-israel sentiment/resistance. It would be the final move needed to cement the conflict as euro-sino, which is a much more controlled theater, compared to the u.s. hegemons vs russian gangsterism which looks like a defensive posture if ever I saw one.

The balance of power is maintained, thats one more day that victory for globalist judaism and international banks is forestalled.