With The Suez Canal blocked, what is the only other country that has access to The Mediterranean to Red Sea trade route? [1056x1039 - 342KB]

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I'm guessing you are referring to the connection made by the Gulf Of Aqaba? Yeah.... well... three countries "have access", Israel, Jordan and Saudi Arabia, but in reality it's only Jordan. The Saudis have no ports along this water way. Just a single city appears to line the coast, Chalets, with no harbor and just a bunch of beaches. Israel has a single harbor at the south part of Eilat, but the harbor looks like it can barely handle a cruise boat let alone a fleet of shipping boats (compare it with the port at Tel Aviv). Jordan has a pretty big harbor, though, in the city of Aqaba.

So... what am I missing here?

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Isn't Jordan to Israel what North Korean is to China?

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Ehhhhh.. it's hard to make any comparisons exactly since there is such hatred for Jews among the arab states. Perhaps the best (used lightly) comparison is what Japan is to the peninsula of Korea.

From my 10 minutes on wikipedia reading the history...

Ottoman Empire lost in WW1. Brits and French made a secret pact to divide up the Ottoman lands should the Triple Entente win the war (which they did). This of course pissed off the Arabs because the Brits had a public deal with the Arabs for their support in creating a Palestine state, but the Brits went behind their back and the Arabs only learned of the deal from the Russians making it public. There were nationalist uprisings from both Jews and Palestinians over the next 30 years so the Brits made a plan to divide up the Levant into Israel and Palestine (1948 borders). Over the next 19 years, all Arab states attacked Israel from all sides as they felt Israel was illegitimate. Israel won their battles and further divided up lands (Golan, Sinai, Gaza, West Bank...1967 borders). Part of the deal, which involved giving back land they won from Egypt and Jordan, was peace and legitimaxy from said countries.

So at this point in time, Jordan and Egypt represent countries that were once enemies but now identify Israel as legitimate and are trade partners.

Japan annexed the peninsula of Korea in 1910 and didn't allow them to have much of a government (Japan wanted to be imperialistic like Western powers had the freedom of doing over the years... they did it big time after WW1). Korea government was put into exile. Many uprisings occurred through the end of WW2, uprisings supported by neighboring countries like China, Siberia and Manchuria. After Japan lost in WW2, they were forced to give up their imperialistic aspirations and annexed lands which allowed for the creation of Korea. Similar to how the Brits and French divided the Ottoman Empire, the Russians and Americans divided up Korea (as both countries wanted to be involved in reconstruction. This was actually a huge motivation for the US using nukes on Japan. US didn't want a war to drag on as Japan was not going to surrender. Last thing the US wanted was the Russians getting involved and having them involved with reconstruction. Had to find a way to end the way quicker than a war of attrition invading Tokyo by land). The north supported by the Russians and the South by the US/UK. The north wanted reunification and began the Korean War in 1950 which led to a treaty and land exchanges to setup what we have today in North and South Korea.

Iran et al doesn't recognize Israel and would bomb them to Kingdom come, but have legitimacy from Jordan and Egypt.

The capitalist supported countries (Japan, US, South Korea, UK, France, AUS, NZ, Canada) don't exactly provide much legitimacy to North Korea, but NK finds it from countries like China and Russia.

Ehhhhh.. it's hard to make any comparisons exactly since there is such hatred for Jews among the arab states. Perhaps the best (used lightly) comparison is what Japan is to the peninsula of Korea. From my 10 minutes on wikipedia reading the history... Ottoman Empire lost in WW1. Brits and French made a secret pact to divide up the Ottoman lands should the Triple Entente win the war (which they did). This of course pissed off the Arabs because the Brits had a public deal with the Arabs for their support in creating a Palestine state, but the Brits went behind their back and the Arabs only learned of the deal from the Russians making it public. There were nationalist uprisings from both Jews and Palestinians over the next 30 years so the Brits made a plan to divide up the Levant into Israel and Palestine (1948 borders). Over the next 19 years, all Arab states attacked Israel from all sides as they felt Israel was illegitimate. Israel won their battles and further divided up lands (Golan, Sinai, Gaza, West Bank...1967 borders). Part of the deal, which involved giving back land they won from Egypt and Jordan, was peace and legitimaxy from said countries. So at this point in time, Jordan and Egypt represent countries that were once enemies but now identify Israel as legitimate and are trade partners. Japan annexed the peninsula of Korea in 1910 and didn't allow them to have much of a government (Japan wanted to be imperialistic like Western powers had the freedom of doing over the years... they did it big time after WW1). Korea government was put into exile. Many uprisings occurred through the end of WW2, uprisings supported by neighboring countries like China, Siberia and Manchuria. After Japan lost in WW2, they were forced to give up their imperialistic aspirations and annexed lands which allowed for the creation of Korea. Similar to how the Brits and French divided the Ottoman Empire, the Russians and Americans divided up Korea (as both countries wanted to be involved in reconstruction. This was actually a huge motivation for the US using nukes on Japan. US didn't want a war to drag on as Japan was not going to surrender. Last thing the US wanted was the Russians getting involved and having them involved with reconstruction. Had to find a way to end the way quicker than a war of attrition invading Tokyo by land). The north supported by the Russians and the South by the US/UK. The north wanted reunification and began the Korean War in 1950 which led to a treaty and land exchanges to setup what we have today in North and South Korea. Iran et al doesn't recognize Israel and would bomb them to Kingdom come, but have legitimacy from Jordan and Egypt. The capitalist supported countries (Japan, US, South Korea, UK, France, AUS, NZ, Canada) don't exactly provide much legitimacy to North Korea, but NK finds it from countries like China and Russia.

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