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So, recently I have been forcing my self to read various things in the general categories dealing with race. I thought Ted Kazinskys manifesto might be interesting so I downloaded the audiobook version online.

Verdict: Mostly bullshit written by an individual that has high IQ in abstract symbolic thinking with an obsessive compulsive disorder that doesn't allow him to understand the world outside of the abstract symbolic psychological cage that he has built for him self.

Ted clearly has ABSOLUTELY ZERO experience in life, zero experience in organizing groups of humans, zero experience in running organizations and zero understanding of human and animal psychology. I have met people like this. They are usually mathematicians or programmers, are hugely productive in their specializations and can concentrate for long periods of time. But, they have no capacity to think outside of their rigidly defined framework of how they believe the universe works. You can't ever get them to concede that they could be wrong.

What he does get right, and correctly predicts as a problem that we will have to deal with in the future (from the perspective of the time when the manifesto was written) is leftism. Although his description of the psychological profiles of leftists are a little too high level, I think he might have provided a reasonable way categorize and think about what is a leftist, how their mind works and what drives them.

What he really gets wrong is the whole thrust of the manifesto: technology has destroyed everything and is the cause of all misery. This is where his obsessive compulsive disorder really shows up. He spends all of his time trying to make the case that technology has destroyed everything and that in order to be saved we must return to ... something nature something. Basically a ludicrously childish set of insights, incomprehensibly retarded analysis and a conclusion that is so vague there is no conclusion beyond we must return to nature.

I know he was experimented on by the government when he was young, but, this guy was broken at birth. In ancient times he would have been killed because he would not be able to provide for the tribe, today these types are useful in expanding fields of specialty that require a lifetime of dedication to move forward.

Overall:

1) Reasonable points made in the first 30 minutes or so.

2) The whole middle is nonsense by someone that has no clue about anything at all.

3) In the last hour or so he doubles back a bit and makes a few reasonable points.

4) The last part is absolute garbage.

VERDICT: The description of leftists might be useful because it summarizes their psychological profile better than most people that I have seen online. Other than that, the manifesto is useless nonsense.

FINAL THOUGHTS: I am forcing my self to read through a bunch of the stuff people link to or keep on bringing up like this manifesto. So far, honestly, most of it is utter garbage. For sure, all of it has some minimal value in either gathering up historical facts that have been deliberately ignored or obfuscated or perhaps even offer a marginal set of insights that MIGHT be considered useful. Overall, virtually nothing that I have read provides any useful information.

Next I will try to get therough the New Zeland manifesto. I agree with those that say that there is something odd about the massacre. I watched it, it did NOT look like people died, especially when he enters that one room with all the bodies in the corner and he fires a couple of shots at them and walks out. I have no proof (seen a few critiques online) but it doesn't read right. Let's see what this manifesto is all about.

So, recently I have been forcing my self to read various things in the general categories dealing with race. I thought Ted Kazinskys manifesto might be interesting so I downloaded the audiobook version online. Verdict: Mostly bullshit written by an individual that has high IQ in abstract symbolic thinking with an obsessive compulsive disorder that doesn't allow him to understand the world outside of the abstract symbolic psychological cage that he has built for him self. Ted clearly has ABSOLUTELY ZERO experience in life, zero experience in organizing groups of humans, zero experience in running organizations and zero understanding of human and animal psychology. I have met people like this. They are usually mathematicians or programmers, are hugely productive in their specializations and can concentrate for long periods of time. But, they have no capacity to think outside of their rigidly defined framework of how they believe the universe works. You can't ever get them to concede that they could be wrong. What he does get right, and correctly predicts as a problem that we will have to deal with in the future (from the perspective of the time when the manifesto was written) is leftism. Although his description of the psychological profiles of leftists are a little too high level, I think he might have provided a reasonable way categorize and think about what is a leftist, how their mind works and what drives them. What he really gets wrong is the whole thrust of the manifesto: technology has destroyed everything and is the cause of all misery. This is where his obsessive compulsive disorder really shows up. He spends all of his time trying to make the case that technology has destroyed everything and that in order to be saved we must return to ... something nature something. Basically a ludicrously childish set of insights, incomprehensibly retarded analysis and a conclusion that is so vague there is no conclusion beyond we must return to nature. I know he was experimented on by the government when he was young, but, this guy was broken at birth. In ancient times he would have been killed because he would not be able to provide for the tribe, today these types are useful in expanding fields of specialty that require a lifetime of dedication to move forward. Overall: 1) Reasonable points made in the first 30 minutes or so. 2) The whole middle is nonsense by someone that has no clue about anything at all. 3) In the last hour or so he doubles back a bit and makes a few reasonable points. 4) The last part is absolute garbage. VERDICT: The description of leftists might be useful because it summarizes their psychological profile better than most people that I have seen online. Other than that, the manifesto is useless nonsense. FINAL THOUGHTS: I am forcing my self to read through a bunch of the stuff people link to or keep on bringing up like this manifesto. So far, honestly, most of it is utter garbage. For sure, all of it has some minimal value in either gathering up historical facts that have been deliberately ignored or obfuscated or perhaps even offer a marginal set of insights that MIGHT be considered useful. Overall, virtually nothing that I have read provides any useful information. Next I will try to get therough the New Zeland manifesto. I agree with those that say that there is something odd about the massacre. I watched it, it did NOT look like people died, especially when he enters that one room with all the bodies in the corner and he fires a couple of shots at them and walks out. I have no proof (seen a few critiques online) but it doesn't read right. Let's see what this manifesto is all about.

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Unkie Ted was an aspie, and further fucked by MK-ULTRA in college. He also was pathologically scared of women. But it is true that the industrial revolution was a disaster for the human race.

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I was with you up until "the industrial revolution was a disaster for the human race."

Fucking ironic considering you are living in a home heated while not being filled with carbon monoxide from burning wood, with a fridge full of food you NEITHER had to hunt,nor prepare, food which is probably shipped half way around the world and is out of season and have enough leasure time (you don't work 18 hours in the fields that is for sure) to post using TECHNOLOGY developed only because the technologies we invented allowed our civilization to grow to economies of scale that allow for the research and development of things like computers, monitors and global communication.

Yes, please, illuminate us with your deep wisdom on how technology is a disaster for our species and how you propose to resolve the problem.

I'm sorry. But stupidity of your caliber has to be labeled as such. You can only post something of that caliber if you are a world class moron.

There is absolutely no way one can make the argument that our lives are worse off than those of our ancestors. I remember out houses with corn cobs to wipe your but, no running inside water and all sorts of things that existed only 40 years ago in Europe alone.

One more edit: I just bought a pack of 3 chicken breasts at the store. The total weight of the package was 1.5 lbs. think about that for a second. 3 chicken breasts, 1.5 lbs. I remember what chickens used to look like when my grandmother slaughetered them. They were fucking tiny little things that barely had any meat on them and were mostly useful for making soup rather than eating. Now a single piece of breast mean (half a breast) is LARGER than all of the meat on a whole chicke that we had 40 years ago. Never mind that I can go to a store any time of year and buy any kind of meat I want at what is basically dirt cheap prices. Pork in particular is unbeleivably cheap in north america for some reason ... probably because people don't know how to prepare it.

I just cannot fathom how the human mind can have such a lack of understanding of scale and scope of what creating all of these tools and systems has provided for us even if we take the worst possible ramifications of the tradeoffs that we have made in walking away from tribal economics.

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The industrial revolution improved the life of the individual but that doesn’t necessarily make the case that it benefited society as a whole. Don’t make the mistake of conflating those two things. Nature vs nurture.

pssssst (go easy on em, they only know what they've been told, those are the only possible reasons, because TV said so once)

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I forbid you from ever using the internet again

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The coital union of your parents has been a disaster for the human race.