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Lets start out with plausible scenarios for election night and post election:

  1. There are riots in your town
  2. Talk to neighbors or store clerks or others. Someone is likely to know whats going on, but don't rely on this information
  3. Board up windows (optional). May provoke looters thinking there are valuables inside, or may discourage them because its not an easy target. May provoke arsonists because wood burns.
  4. Organize patrols / impromptu community self defense groups if you haven't already.
  5. Have a plan.

Now for the unfolding 'nightmare' scenario.

  1. some angry/loud people are coming down your street or a neighboring street
  2. more people are joining them or behind them
  3. they are now obviously a mob and that mob is coming down neighboring streets.
  4. mobs come down YOUR street
  5. you are being menaced by armed people (no guns visible, just hand tools for example)
  6. your house is on fire
  7. you are being shot at or attacked (because those armed with hand weapons are also likely among those armed with guns)
  8. someone among your friends/neighbors/family is badly injured, bleeding
  9. you are surrounded
  10. you and those you love end up as hostages and then dead/raped, and your home burned/looted

At each of these situations you have a decision to make.

  1. Angry/loud people tend to attract more, or are a signal to more, especially in a politically charged environment.
  2. At this step you must decide, decide now, will I stay and hold them off or will I run. Fleeing is usually the correct response when outnumbered. This is especially true if your home isn't easy to retreat from. Remember, parallel roads "running through backyards" in the case of towns and cities may not be an option. There may be rioters on the other street too, and you'd be running right into the middle of them

  3. At this point you know it is a mob, and it is very likely too late to change your decision to flee or fight. A single example, say if one tries to trespass or assault you, and you take them down, may be enough to dissuade the mob, but its equally likely to enrage them. And some of them are likely armed, meaning you will likely be both outmanned and outgunned. This is the last opportunity to decide whether to retreat, bunker down, or fight.

  4. The mob will attempt to hem you in, surround your home, or threaten you into compliance with any demands, including hostages, loot, and/or rape. They will use weapons, both improvised or otherwise, to affect these outcomes. At this step, if you do not have a clear path of retreat, and you likely don't, you must rely on the mob passing by your house (highly unlikely and a good way to end up dead), or on heavy deterrence in the form of weapons and physical numbers, as well as physical fortifications.

  5. The mob will likely use fire to drive you out if you are dug in good and engage in any sort of fight. In this scenario, retreat means you are likely going right into their arms. Be prepared with sandbags and buckets of sand. Additionally it will be hard to put out the fire from inside the house, while the mob is near by and ready to attack the moment you come out. Step 5 is why it is better to choose to retreat in steps 3 or 4.

6-10. This step really develops and unfolds in tandem with step five, or as an extension of it. The outcome, short of a full conflict with the mob, is set. If you are at this stage, it has come down to your survival versus theirs. You can only take out as many as needed to cause them to retreat, and you should not rely on this outcome. Reaching this point likely means many witnesses, like in the michael brown case, dozens of them, will lie about who started it. The media will outright ignore any evidence you have, and the mobs will in turn use physical violence to intimidate the DA/city into prosecuting you. You will likely face arrest after the fact, even if police are on the 'same political side' as you. and your home will be looted and burned while you are gone. The people harmed while you were defending yourself will be turned into martyrs by both national and local news stations and social media outlets, and you will likely be assaulted and/or killed in prison by prisoners that have opposing political ideologies or who are looking to earn favors from the neo bolshevik party.

While some financial assistance can be expected from many sympathizers, there will likely be many people like you, facing similar, characterized as a "wave of rightwing terrorism by racists and antisemites" to politically isolate you. Many will have their funding cut off by the likes of gofundme and similar sites, and many more will have their bank accounts frozen so they can't afford effective legal defense. There will likely be many people in your situation so that hope for public attention and aid of your cause against wrongful prosecution is greatly diminished and divided among all the victims of wrongful prosecution. You will likely be convicted and go not just broke but into debt fighting for your right to a fair retrial or appeal. The political system will in particular lose your court documents, mismanage them, toss them, ignore them, pretend like they didn't receive them, slow walk them, and perform all sorts of felony-tier procedural violations so you languish for months, or even several years, along with many others.

Understand the left is in a declared war against your very survival because you are either white and/or conservative and/or christian. The GOP will talk tough, but ultimately, with the elections behind them, riding a red wave, they will not stick out their necks to help their own supporters. There will be a lot of that in fact but ultimately you, and many others wrongfully imprisoned will be on your own in practice, and those who would help you will be financially isolated by banks/credit card processors/crowdsourcing sites, and censored by social media, while the news media labels and drives the narrative that you, like kyle rittenhouse, like the mccloskeys, are terrorist murderers, racists, etc.

You may avoid these outcomes by either retreating, or being armed, and organized, with neighbors, in large groups, during and after the election (well away from polling places so as not to interfere with said elections). There is safety in numbers, and the left are mostly cowards. The more people you have present, all with the common cause of self defense, the more witnesses you have on your side against the bolshevik mobs.

And understand this is meant to discourage you, namely from fighting, and in particular, fighting when outnumbered. Even though it is your right to defend your family, property, and community, understand the ground you stand on, and how such a fight will unfold. This is not a time to play hero. This is a time to understand with a cool head, how to survive situations that can very easily turn into meat grinders that eat you alive and spit you out as a corpse.

If you expect to have to defend your property and retreat is not an option, absolutely have people with military experience already present beforehand, who agree to do the organizing and leading. They'll be the best at it, and they'll be the best at keeping the situation and everyone in it under control. Pre-place vehicles IN FRONT of your property, along with sandbags. Why?

So you can retreat BACK to the house and put out any fires as you do, with at least someone forward of the house-front who can lay down covering fire.

Neither provoke the mob, nor attack without lawful reason/justification to do so. Because there are always legal consequences after the fact, because more than half of our government has now turned against the republic as domestic enemies, and they will politically prosecute you when the dust settles.

Prepare accordingly.

Lets start out with plausible scenarios for election night and post election: 1. There are riots in your town 2. Talk to neighbors or store clerks or others. Someone is likely to know whats going on, but don't rely on this information 3. Board up windows (optional). May provoke looters thinking there are valuables inside, or may discourage them because its not an easy target. May provoke arsonists because wood burns. 4. Organize patrols / impromptu community self defense groups if you haven't already. 5. Have a plan. Now for the unfolding 'nightmare' scenario. 1. some angry/loud people are coming down your street or a neighboring street 2. more people are joining them or behind them 3. they are now obviously a mob and that mob is coming down neighboring streets. 4. mobs come down YOUR street 5. you are being menaced by armed people (no guns visible, just *hand* tools for example) 6. your house is on fire 7. you are being shot at or attacked (because those armed with hand weapons are also likely among those armed with guns) 8. someone among your friends/neighbors/family is *badly* injured, bleeding 9. you are surrounded 10. you and those you love end up as hostages and then dead/raped, and your home burned/looted At each of these situations you have a decision to make. 1. Angry/loud people tend to attract more, or are a signal to more, especially in a politically charged environment. 2. At this step you must decide, decide now, will I stay and hold them off or will I run. Fleeing is usually the correct response when outnumbered. This is especially true if your home isn't easy to retreat from. Remember, parallel roads "running through backyards" in the case of towns and cities may not be an option. There may be rioters on the other street too, and you'd be running right into the middle of them 3. At this point you know it is a mob, and it is very likely too late to change your decision to flee or fight. A single example, say if one tries to trespass or assault you, and you take them down, may be enough to dissuade the mob, but its **equally** likely to enrage them. And some of them are likely armed, meaning you will likely be both outmanned *and* outgunned. This *is* the *last* opportunity to decide whether to retreat, bunker down, or fight. 4. The mob will attempt to hem you in, surround your home, or threaten you into compliance with any demands, including hostages, loot, and/or rape. They will use weapons, both improvised or otherwise, to affect these outcomes. At this step, if you do not have a clear path of retreat, and you likely don't, you must rely on the mob passing by your house (highly unlikely and a good way to end up dead), or on heavy deterrence in the form of weapons and physical numbers, as well as physical fortifications. 5. The mob will likely use fire to drive you out if you are dug in good and engage in any sort of fight. In this scenario, retreat means you are likely going right into their arms. Be prepared with sandbags and buckets of sand. Additionally it will be hard to put out the fire from inside the house, while the mob is near by and ready to attack the moment you come out. Step 5 is why it is better to choose to retreat in steps 3 or 4. 6-10. This step really develops and unfolds in tandem with step five, or as an extension of it. The outcome, short of a full conflict with the mob, is set. If you are at this stage, it has come down to your survival versus theirs. You can only take out as many as needed to cause them to retreat, and you should not rely on this outcome. Reaching this point likely means many witnesses, like in the michael brown case, dozens of them, will lie about who started it. The media will outright ignore any evidence you have, and the mobs will in turn use physical violence to intimidate the DA/city into prosecuting you. You will likely face arrest after the fact, even if police are on the 'same political side' as you. and your home will be looted and burned while you are gone. The people harmed while you were defending yourself will be turned into martyrs by both national and local news stations and social media outlets, and you will likely be assaulted and/or killed in prison by prisoners that have opposing political ideologies or who are looking to earn favors from the neo bolshevik party. While some financial assistance can be expected from many sympathizers, there will likely be *many* people like you, facing similar, characterized as a "wave of rightwing terrorism by racists and antisemites" to politically isolate you. Many will have their funding cut off by the likes of gofundme and similar sites, and many more will have their bank accounts frozen so they can't afford effective legal defense. There will likely be many people in your situation so that hope for public attention and aid of your cause against wrongful prosecution is greatly diminished and divided among all the victims of wrongful prosecution. You will likely be convicted and go not just broke but *into debt* fighting for your right to a fair *retrial* or appeal. The political system will in particular lose your court documents, mismanage them, toss them, ignore them, pretend like they didn't receive them, slow walk them, and perform all sorts of felony-tier procedural violations so you languish for months, or even several years, along with many others. Understand the left is *in a declared war* against your very survival because you are either white and/or conservative and/or christian. The GOP will talk tough, but ultimately, with the elections behind them, riding a red wave, they will not stick out their necks to help their own supporters. There will be a lot of that in fact but ultimately you, and many others wrongfully imprisoned will be on your own in practice, and those who *would* help you will be financially isolated by banks/credit card processors/crowdsourcing sites, and censored by social media, while the news media labels and drives the narrative that you, like kyle rittenhouse, like the mccloskeys, are terrorist murderers, racists, etc. You may avoid these outcomes by either retreating, or being armed, and organized, with neighbors, in large groups, during and after the election (well away from polling places so as not to interfere with said elections). There is safety in numbers, and the left are mostly cowards. The more people you have present, all with the common cause of self defense, the more witnesses you have on *your* side against the bolshevik mobs. And understand this *is* meant to discourage you, namely from fighting, and in particular, fighting when outnumbered. Even though it is your right to defend your family, property, and community, **understand** the ground you stand on, and **how** such a fight will unfold. This is not a time to play hero. This is a time to understand with a cool head, how to survive situations that can very easily turn into **meat grinders** that **eat you alive** and spit you out as a corpse. If you expect to have to defend your property and retreat is not an option, **absolutely** have people with military experience **already present beforehand**, who agree to do the organizing **and leading**. They'll be the best at it, and they'll be the best at keeping the situation and everyone in it under control. Pre-place vehicles IN FRONT of your property, along with sandbags. Why? So you can retreat BACK to the house and put out any fires as you do, with at least **someone** forward of the house-front who can lay down covering fire. Neither provoke the mob, nor attack without **lawful** reason/justification to do so. Because there are **always** legal consequences after the fact, because more than half of our government has now turned against the republic as domestic enemies, and they will politically prosecute you when the dust settles. Prepare accordingly.

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Illinois huh?

We got a couple in ohio. Correspondants if you will.

Don't care who you are. Care to be our guy on the ground there?

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I'm not in Illinois. I was trying to ask if the "guys combine and trailer being fireburned in the middle of corn field out in bumfuck nowhere." was in Illinois.

I'm in a rural area in the Bible belt. The nearest big city is 10s of miles away. I'd be happy to be "the guy on the ground", but don't want to be tok specific about my location.

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I'll put you down as U.S. South-Eastern Region" correspondant.