I personally do not know of a libertarian that trusts the government to do anything right. Anyone that thinks the government should have any hand outside of interstate trade and foreign relations is not a libertarian.
I agree. I've gone so far as to describe myself as a constitutional libertarian. I felt the need to clarify when the open boarders crowd started trying to discredit the idea of deregulation by insisting that securing the country against illegal entry was nothing short of federal overreach. I think it also helps separate me from what I think are called anarcho-libertariens who, in my opinion, are just communists in disguise tackling the "shred the constitution" premise from another angle.
I can see the want to distinguish by prefacing with constitutional but there's amendments to that have enshrined overreach. Income taxes being a glaring example. In the end though, they are all labels that people like to stick on others so they can easily package them up into an easy to handle thought. "I think this and I am this so if you don't think this then you must be that."
The sixteenth & seventeenth amendments should be repealed. At a minimum. I don't typically start there on political conversations. Because it can be laborsom to explain to someone looking for cheep points (obviously not referring to you here) that federal taxation is not only wrong but unnecessary & that senators are meant to be representatives of the several states not popularly elected.
Given that. I still pay my taxes and vote for a senator because they're are mechanisms to change these things & I happen to believe that those processes work & are important.
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