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And it's an attack on our liberties.

If this is allowed to be established, it will become like the TSA, intrusive and destructive of its own ends. They will expand to use it to shut down political organizations, use it to track guys who get together at the shooting range, use it to co-opt and shut down political protests, and a host of other abusive shit.

Let your governors and congressmen know, in no uncertain terms, that if this is not immediately banned then you're voting them out of office. No half measures. No "oh no, looks like theres nothing we can do, so sorry citizens!", or "we have to sign it to see whats in it", and no exception like "muh-attached-to-a-bill-that-MUST-pass-think-of-the-troops/children/importantGroupofTheDay!", and no "abstained" votes.

This is not fucking acceptable.

And it's an attack on our liberties. If this is allowed to be established, it will become like the TSA, intrusive and destructive of its own ends. They will expand to use it to shut down political organizations, use it to track guys who get together at the shooting range, use it to co-opt and shut down political protests, and a host of other abusive shit. Let your governors and congressmen know, in no uncertain terms, that if this is not immediately banned then you're voting them out of office. No half measures. No "oh no, looks like theres nothing we can do, so sorry citizens!", or "we have to sign it to see whats in it", and no exception like "muh-attached-to-a-bill-that-MUST-pass-think-of-the-troops/children/importantGroupofTheDay!", and no "abstained" votes. This is not fucking acceptable.

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Agreed 100%. As soon as the pandemic passes you will start to see news stories about a alleged/attempted terrorist attack that was foiled by Contact Tracing. They will arrest a few people with a bunch of fanfare and claim to have stopped a huge attack and to have saved many lives. They will then disclose their 'powerful new crime fighting tool'.

"When we arrested him he was driving a car bomb loaded with 800lbs of high explosives. We then back traced his contacts and this lead us to the rest of the terrorist cell."

Contact tracing will be institutionalized guilt by association. How do we know this? Because the state has had the technical capability to do contact tracing for a long time. Google/Apple know your precise location for as long as you have had a phone. They know this about everyone else as well... You really think that no one ever built the very simple MapReduce (that's the google tech... don't know what apple call this stuff internally) script that does the very simple search of "Show me a list of other phones that were in this location at the same time." ? And we know for a fact that Google makes data very available and provides direct access to their back end to many law enforcement agencies. They can already do this... the fact that we are seeing the term 'Contact Tracing' in the news means that they are trying to normalize the use of the tech.

This is coming. Root your phone now. Start learning about LineageOS and Replicant

[–] 2 pts

Any suggestions for rootable phones? Every time I buy a phone (2 or 3 times in my lifetime lol) I get fucked with no support for rooting.

[–] 4 pts

Check out the Motorola phones. They fully support unlocking/rooting... it does void your manufacture's warranty, but when was the last time you actually called your phone manufacturer for support? I run a rooted Moto G7 now and could not be happier. Costs a fraction of the price of other manufactures and it's specs beat most other phone out there.

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Motorola is owned be Lenovo now, so only get that if you are interested in your data potentially ending up in Beijing's databanks.

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This is coming. Root your phone now. Start learning about LineageOS and Replican

I won't change my behavior for their panopticon. unless for practical purposes.

I refuse to be cowed and you should too.

[–] 6 pts

If you have a smart phone in your pocket, you have already capitulated. You are already in the Panopticon. You do not need to change your behavior for their Panopticon... you need to change your behavior to GET OUT of their Panopticon.

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Don't misunderstand, this isn't our defeat, this is our victory.

We have been hit by a blitzkreig against our rights, including freedom of association and privacy.

The blitzkreig was thought invincible too, no one could see a way around it, no one could see a weakness.

Do you remember how it was defeated?

The state has exposed its flank by putting its tendrils out everywhere.

Could you imagine how damaging a set of easy to use, open source tools would be? The kind that allow anyone to blast out fake gps, fake contacts for tracing, all day and all night?

If even a fraction of people did this, the signal to noise ratio would be worthless, not because they couldn't use it, but because it would immediately raise the legal question of reliability.

"All of this data is in question because we cannot in practice, prove our data is accurate."

It would undermine the legitimacy of the tracing program itself.

What if we all traced back to sam hyde for example?

Finally, as the state's overreach expands, we need only expose it. The greater the overreach the more they will attempt to normalize it, which is a possibility. But so too is the opportunity for outrage as the number of people impacted by it grows. Thats the flank left open by the blitzkreig. Push on it, using the very people they're intruding on, and they'll have no where to go, no retreat, but deeper into the shit. They'll double down (because they always do when pushed) long before they're ready and cause a backlash they were hoping to avoid by incrementalism.

Hence, acceleration*sm.