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Civilizations that are failing build walls. Observe the great wall of china, and hadrians wall. Civilizations going to war build roads and railroads. Observe the economic expansionism of rome and the u.s. Civilizations that are acting defensively build military bases. Observe rome, spain, portugal, britain, and the u.s. Civilizations that are growing economically build airports and other non-military transport.

The last two are contentious, the former because I haven't gathered enough counter examples, and the latter because I'm basing consumer airport spending on modern history, which by it's very (modern) nature, hasn't been around as a transport method very long.

What can we extrapolate from these baselines, assuming they're correct?

Russia isn't a threat.

China is.

UAE is going to have a real estate bubble.

The U.S. has failed politically and is slowly failing economically (everyone knew this already).

Anyone else want to give it a go?

Edit: I'm in favor of The Wall, and this isn't a criticism of that, just an observation of a common symptom.

Civilizations that are failing build walls. Observe the great wall of china, and hadrians wall. Civilizations going to war build roads and railroads. Observe the economic expansionism of rome and the u.s. Civilizations that are acting defensively build military bases. Observe rome, spain, portugal, britain, and the u.s. Civilizations that are growing economically build airports and other non-military transport. The last two are contentious, the former because I haven't gathered enough counter examples, and the latter because I'm basing consumer airport spending on modern history, which by it's very (modern) nature, hasn't been around as a transport method very long. What can we extrapolate from these baselines, assuming they're correct? Russia isn't a threat. China is. UAE is going to have a real estate bubble. The U.S. has failed politically and is slowly failing economically (everyone knew this already). Anyone else want to give it a go? Edit: I'm in favor of The Wall, and this isn't a criticism of that, just an observation of a common symptom.

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[–] [deleted] 2 pts

Civilizations that are failing build walls.

Israel are building large walls, and I don't think (as of yet) it is a failing nation. But there is something you're touching on with walls that is worth considering. Walls aren't just a defensive tactic, they can be two way and are merely something to impede traffic.

The reason walls are presented as an option on the southern border is because the situation there is not managed. If it was, no wall would be needed. The powers that be want to people to argue about a wall all the while not empowering the nation (people) to uphold the laws themselves and become bystanders instead of participants (as it was originally meant to be). In this way, the idea of a wall is a cop out that abstracts away direct action from the population to manage their own border, or have it managed for them as they would will it.

Walls can be poorly used. The great wall of china, the Maginot line (France) and others were erected but they are just but one of many levers to pull for defending a nation (nation meaning the people). This is really the distinction. Defense of the people is key, but a wall makes the nation a land mass instead ... at least abstractly.

Observe the economic expansionism of rome and the u.s. Civilizations that are acting defensively build military bases. Observe rome, spain, portugal, britain, and the u.s. Civilizations that are growing economically build airports and other non-military transport.

It does seem likely that economic travel bases (ports, airports, etc) correlate positively to economic growth. But not sure which one causes which, or if it's a correlation but I don't know if this premise is fully complete. For example, look at Canada. They have built a few airports in that last couple of years (government funded for private enterprises, to golf courses etc.) and have no military bases of their own (or at least any expansion) as far as I can tell. However, the economy is not doing overly well at all.

Russia isn't a threat. China is.

If you're talking economically, at this time (given you're previous premises) I think you're right. However, I think fundamentally they've both been threats for a long time. It depends on what you think has happened in the last 100 years and who actually runs those countries (as in influences, controls, not the figureheads). I would offer a consideration that the mafia (and that's the best word to describe it) that influences (protocols of zion) USA, Russia, China and Israel are the same. While Russia seems to have unshackled itself from communism, what would you call China? China has currency, production, industry, different classes, capitalism, and an "unelected" leader ... as well as a controlled media. How is Russia any different?

I honestly believe China and Russia are a show and are really nations already awaiting one-world-government. The people running those nations are controlled by IMF and (at this time) believe if they participate in the creeping communism world wide that they'll be able to control their part of it. Kind of like in every major war the same group funds all sides.

The U.S. has failed politically and is slowly failing economically (everyone knew this already).

The entire western world run by WASPs (white anglo saxon protestants) has been "given away" a long time ago. I agree US has failed politically, but it's deeper than that. First we get a washing machine that frees us from laundry, in the same way we get government funded schools to unshackle us from teaching math to our children. The difference though is that the washing machine isn't paid to slowly destroy you and enslave you and your children. The similarity is, most people wouldn't believe either is nor would they be inclined to check. So, we (in the entire western world) are presented with a game board with few moves left on it.

The way out is to realize the game itself is fake and we don't need checkers to manage our laundry or educate our kids. A mass decentralization is required NOW or the entire western world will be lost. A disconnection from a global economy will require we look harder at the finances, ideological programming, and food supply. The separation effect is just making us complacent, and to bring it back to the analogy when the washing machine breaks down we won't know how to do laundry anymore.

I think this has been a plan all along to groom the entire world into dependency (youtube.com) of some central big brother authority. While it seems that China and Russia are doing well, consider that these are local problems and the game is rigged. Money is an abstraction which is used to make us look away from merit. So, US is still failing but look at the morality of these two nations for a comparison. Not good.

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Yeah, walls only really isolate a nation, which, defensively, is awfully sensible. The other use may worry some, however.

[–] [deleted] 3 pts

Yes, the other use. You build a house with great security only to get locked inside.

Also interesting in this blindness of a wall is how the Maginot line had guns pointed only one way and troops parachuted over with ease.