I hear what you say And both ways it's going to happen, I'm afraid "You" pull out, consequences are highly predictable, israel will have to be best friend with iran, which isn't going to happen, after a little while all hell breaks loose, the straight of hormuz gets fucked right away for obvious reasons https://www.thoughtco.com/strait-of-hormuz-1435398 >>In 2011, nearly 17 million barrels of oil, or almost **20% of the world’s traded oil flowed on ships through the Strait of Hormuz daily**, for an annual total of more than six billion barrels of oil. An average of 14 crude oil ships passed through the strait per day in that year taking oil to destinations such as Japan, India, China and South Korea (U.S. Energy Information Administration). You can see how the world economy is going to take a dive here, needless to mention petrodollars "You" stay, same deal pretty much, it's going to boil over inevitably, the straight takes the hit, and the US navy isn't going to be able to do anything about it; Not only they'll be sitting ducks there, but what do you do? Civilian tankers doing business as usual in the middle of a naval war with iran? Not going to happen ... So you see, "just" for the the straight of hormuz, it's a lose lose situation. The best that can be expected is a balance of powers over there, nobody moves. And it's way past time for that. We're even past the talks. There's nothing to say, nobody wants to talk anymore. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-denies-irans-fm-zarif-visa-attend-un ... And that's only one thing, there are dozens of other things that will go wrong utterly wrong as a result, maelstrom of shit on a global scale, evidently The question isn't will there be troubles or not There will be troubles, big time The question is, do you want any part of this, for the sake of who exactly? The imperial masters? Both ways we'll be hit, hard In the end, it's only a karmic/moral matter, do you want to assist the imperial masters or not. But both ways we get the shaft, that's it, there's no "winner", it's retarded beyond repair ... Now from a christian standpoint, also this https://archive.vn/P5Xza#selection-411.0-411.1050 >>Netanyahu’s statement may be startling to some, but it does make sense if one’s priority for Israel is to hold on to all the biblical land. They were Netanyahu’s best friends, better friends than President Clinton from that perspective, with whom he was meeting the next day and who was pressuring Netanyahu as well as the Palestinians to meaningfully negotiate. For the Likud party and their supporters, this was a smart political alliance. **Liberal objections about the real motives of these Evangelicals were not persuasive. True, these Christian right leaders believed the real significance of the State of Israel was its role in the apocalyptic end-times scenario, which they believed would culminate in the wiping out of most Jews and the conversion of the remaining few.** This is deeply problematic and offensive for us as Jews. One could argue, however, that we don’t believe in these visions of the end time anyway, so what do they matter? If we agree on what should happen in this world, why not agree to disagree on what happens in the next. See? Judgement Day was the plan all along for some people, namely "christian" zionists Yeah, judgement day, no less It's like death, we'll have to face it, one way or the other So, in that context, what's left? A moral choice, that's all Do we get along with the program, or not My choice is clear, I won't