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[–] 6 pts

Wow, the jew is strong in him.... "we wrongfully invaded your country for bullshit reasons and if you want us to leave you gotta pay us back the money we spent invading you"

[–] 2 pts

Ah that's world class jewing, the words of a heavyweight champion right there, no doubt

No wonder he gets along well with them, it's almost as if he could teach them how jewing is really done

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he's revealing his (((globalist jew))) final form to all of us and has been doing so the last few years alone. coming up on 3 years in 2 weeks or so. iraq / iran - right next to each other. (((they))) are trying to inch it in at this point. watch for the struggle with this entire situation alone because every ones got their eyes on this for the most part.

Do they know what to look for though? - this is the question though.

https://southfront.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/1-159.jpg


https://educateinspirechange.org/alternative-news/3-countries-world-without-rothschild-central-bank/

http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/countries-without-central-banks/


(((jew trump))) owes them a favor from the looks of it.


(((they))) went into full blown panic mode and tried to slide this in with (((jew trump and this globalist coup))) alone. (((they've))) been inching for this the entire time, but keep getting themselves caught and/or busted for that matter.


God or (The All Seeing Eye) sees all. The One True God sees all. (((they))) tried at least. God caught them just fine though due to Omnipotence, Omniscience and/or Omnipresence alone in their international jewry or jewish globalist con game. again (((they))) tried at least - give them that...

(((they))) tried pulling a fast one on the house and/or God (One True God) - White Christian / White Catholic God alone.

[–] 3 pts

Unless you pay us billions of dollars for the airbase we're going to stay and spend billions more!

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Sunken cost fallacy for sure.

I do understand stand that this would lead to Iran expanding their influence over Iran, that is a consideration. It could likely be the the reason Trump wants to stay, but in that case it may as well be a permanent deployment. The situation with Iran is not changing anytime soon.

[–] 3 pts

Preventing Iran from exerting control over Iraq is definitely one of the stated goals of the NeoCons and pro-war Left. I'm of the opinion that we should stop caring and let Russia, Turkey, whomever deal with the Middle East. If Britain, France, and/or Germany want a slice they can have it too.

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I've heard claims that Iran is already running the show in Iraq and that's why the government voted this way. I haven't found anything supporting or denouncing this, so it is probably just a internet guy with a radio show rambling.

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Well, this whole story is in the end only a very trumpish way of saying "you can't afford it"

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Actually, I can see reason behind this. Basically what he said is "Okay, but you have to pay for it, so I don't appear weak at home". When compared to other presidents, Trump has been a peacenik so far.

Telling the iraqis something like "Yeah, we'll leave your shitty region, just pay us a few billions" sounds as if the iraqis could get the money by crowdfunding via the internet. The 23 billions somewhere mentioned also are less than 10% of their annual GDP, and can probably payed off as deferred payment. If much of the region wants the US gone, that's actually a very small price.

[–] 0 pt

I was thinking the same thing, this whole thing is just Trump getting an excuse to get out of the region. Now, all the usual anti-Trump suspects are screaming at him to stop warmongering and get out, he demands a small amount of cash, packs up, leaves, and Israel is on their own with the beast they've been agitating forever.

Maybe they can borrow the money from the world bank?

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US Taxpayers are on the hook for loans from the central banks for the $23 trillion dollars spent on military facilities in Iraq and Trump wants a refund? That's not entirely unreasonable.

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At the same time it's not as if iraqis asked for any of this

That said yes, a refund is a good idea, iraqis just happen to not be the ones who should be asked to pay for it

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Who else did you have in mind?

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Now that's fucking weak if you ask me. Cringy as fuck from the iraqi perspective

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his final form as a (((globalist jew))) is finally revealed for all to see...

slide it in on everyone by (((tricking))) them then go into his (((jewish globalist))) form. most people caught on fast or were wise enough to see (((their))) tricks alone.

the con (((trick))) and/or etc is finally revealed to all of us on a globalist coup stage.


doesn't just get out of iraq. isn't iraq right next to iran?! I think it is... sigh more (((jewish globalist tricks))) for that matter with all his (((globalist cultural marxism))) to as well to go along side all this.

[–] 2 pts

Why are you typing out the word jew and also using (((these)))?

(((Jew))) is redundant now I guess? :-/

EDIT: I see you already got there in the later responses.

expose (((them))). international jewry alone.

[–] 1 pt

Well yeah, but I mean the parenthesis is often to replace the word. For example I could say something like (((Bolsheviks))) to state they were Jewish instead of just saying "Jewish Bolsheviks" the term (((Jewish Bolshevik))) just seems redundant.

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First we kill goyims in Iraq for thousands because our government and that of Iraq is controlled by the Jew and the Jew sets up theaters, fake sides and false enemies and differences. The Jew is thirsty for insatiable blood and hears we must also destroy weapons to manufacture others and earn more money and what a coincidence that the Jew also controls the arms industry and companies like Raytheon will sound like that and after that. After killing them for thousands now we ask the goyim of Iraq to pay us. Jewish logic. But you can expect from demons that only live to subdue, enslave, kill and steal human beings. This has been the case since time immemorial and if we don't stop them they will go on and on. They don't know how to do anything other than evil

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Heres my concern. It might just be that pulling out of Israel will kick off the battle of Armageddon. As a Christian I should actually be encouraging this. This kind of goes contrary to my nature. But I trust God.

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I hear what you say

And both ways it's going to happen, I'm afraid

"You" pull out, consequences are highly predictable, israel will have to be best friend with iran, which isn't going to happen, after a little while all hell breaks loose, the straight of hormuz gets fucked right away for obvious reasons https://www.thoughtco.com/strait-of-hormuz-1435398

>In 2011, nearly 17 million barrels of oil, or almost 20% of the world’s traded oil flowed on ships through the Strait of Hormuz daily, for an annual total of more than six billion barrels of oil. An average of 14 crude oil ships passed through the strait per day in that year taking oil to destinations such as Japan, India, China and South Korea (U.S. Energy Information Administration).

You can see how the world economy is going to take a dive here, needless to mention petrodollars

"You" stay, same deal pretty much, it's going to boil over inevitably, the straight takes the hit, and the US navy isn't going to be able to do anything about it; Not only they'll be sitting ducks there, but what do you do? Civilian tankers doing business as usual in the middle of a naval war with iran? Not going to happen

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So you see, "just" for the the straight of hormuz, it's a lose lose situation. The best that can be expected is a balance of powers over there, nobody moves. And it's way past time for that. We're even past the talks. There's nothing to say, nobody wants to talk anymore. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-denies-irans-fm-zarif-visa-attend-un

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And that's only one thing, there are dozens of other things that will go wrong utterly wrong as a result, maelstrom of shit on a global scale, evidently

The question isn't will there be troubles or not

There will be troubles, big time

The question is, do you want any part of this, for the sake of who exactly? The imperial masters?

Both ways we'll be hit, hard

In the end, it's only a karmic/moral matter, do you want to assist the imperial masters or not. But both ways we get the shaft, that's it, there's no "winner", it's retarded beyond repair

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Now from a christian standpoint, also this https://archive.vn/P5Xza#selection-411.0-411.1050

>Netanyahu’s statement may be startling to some, but it does make sense if one’s priority for Israel is to hold on to all the biblical land. They were Netanyahu’s best friends, better friends than President Clinton from that perspective, with whom he was meeting the next day and who was pressuring Netanyahu as well as the Palestinians to meaningfully negotiate. For the Likud party and their supporters, this was a smart political alliance. Liberal objections about the real motives of these Evangelicals were not persuasive. True, these Christian right leaders believed the real significance of the State of Israel was its role in the apocalyptic end-times scenario, which they believed would culminate in the wiping out of most Jews and the conversion of the remaining few. This is deeply problematic and offensive for us as Jews. One could argue, however, that we don’t believe in these visions of the end time anyway, so what do they matter? If we agree on what should happen in this world, why not agree to disagree on what happens in the next.

See?

Judgement Day was the plan all along for some people, namely "christian" zionists

Yeah, judgement day, no less

It's like death, we'll have to face it, one way or the other

So, in that context, what's left?

A moral choice, that's all

Do we get along with the program, or not

My choice is clear, I won't

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I thought it might be something like this. A non-christian perspective. Makes sense. But here's the problem. Whoever's doing all this manipulation, warmongering, and killing is NOT Christian. Real christians follow the teachings of Christ. Christ followers. Christ only showed aggression with one group of people. The scribes, pharasees, and money changers. I don't understand why christians have such a boner for Israel. A real Christian perspective would be to stay out of Israel (and have them stay away from us) and stand back and watch what gods got in mind. And definitely stop killing people horribly. I imagine the people who hate us would leave us alone if we left them alone. What you think?

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In any case, you just have one question to ask yourself to see clear:

What would jesus do?

From there it clears the field, he certainly wouldn't endorse zionism in any shape or form period