It was trump or hillary The current situation would be nothing like what we are witnessing today if hillary had won I can't even begin to imagine the level of degeneracy and censorship and outright betrayal we would be facing right now, and that's without talking about foreign wars, it would be apocalyptical I think, I mean literally You seem to believe TPTB is one monolithic block where everybody agrees on every things and how to do things. From my perspective it's a tad more complicated.