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Clearly he has never read the bible. Nor have the tards that return the sentiment. What's the easiest way to debunk most bibleTards? Actually read it...

Luke 2:7-8

And she gave birth to her son, the firstborn and she wrapped him in strips of cloth and laid him in a manger because there was no room for them in the lodging place.

There were also in the same region shepherds living out of doors and keeping watch in the night over their flocks.

Shepherds were not in the fields with their flocks in winter.

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Midwit take. No one cares that he wasn’t actually born on December 25th, 0BC. That’s the day we memorialize the event. Most churches even say that explicitly. Enjoy being miserable!

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December 25th is thought to be Gilgamesh's birthday. This is also why saturnalia was celebrated during Roman days. It's all a direct trail from the tower of babel.

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The 24/5th was picked to normalize things for the pagans and their winter solstice festivals and the sacrifice (human) burned on a yule log fire to refuel the sun.

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Of all the things on this site I could quibble over, I'll go with asking, shouldn't it be 0 AD?

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There was no 0 AD.

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No one cares its all a lie!!! We blindly follow anyway.

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Midwit take? It's what the bible says faggot. And clearly that's not what a lot of religionTards believe.

Your comment is pointless. You are mad because I'm right? Only jews memorialize lies. Facts.

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Umm the middle east isnt that cold in winter.

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It's 60 degrees in Bethlehem today. The overnight low is in the 40s. Why wouldn't they keep going until it actually gets cold?

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December is the first month of winter in Bethlehem. December is also rainy for Bethlehem. If you know anything about sheep farming you'll know that sheep can not stand around in mud or wet ground. They have tender feet that need to stay dry. So yes shepherds did graze their flocks in the winter, but they did not stay outside with the flock. This is the number 1 rebuttal people have. The bible does not say they were taking the sheep out to graze. It says they were living with their sheep in the fields. Big difference. Staying in the fields usually ended in November.

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If you know anything about sheep farming...

So I am supposed to deduce all of that from reading Luke?

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It hasn't rained this month in Bethlehem so far, and there are only 3 days of rain forecast for the rest of the month, with one of them after the 25th. It's not fucking monsoon season. It's a couple of days of rain. When they usually end the season doesn't tell us that they always end the season then. If the weather cooperated, they would have continued having the sheep out (less winter fodder consumed.)

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Yes derp. Sheep still need to eat in the winter. Wow. Anyone with a brain knows that animals still require food in the winter.

shepherds living out of doors

They did not stay in the fields with their herds in the winter. Also Augustus ordered all his subjects to "register" in their own towns. Some of them would of had to travel for days sometimes more than a week. With the order already being unfavorable as it was, I doubt Augustus would have made them make the journey in winter. Get good or GTFO. Stop trying to justify celebrating a lie.