I started this by mocking people for deploying the same groupthink demoralization rhetoric used in many places. You reversed it and tried to put the burden of proof on me. I'm not doing that. I was only ever mocking you. Your demanding I instead back track and explain is meaningless to me. You then suggested I'm defending him. That's inaccurate. I then said it makes little difference from our perspective and that we won't fully know, which I reiterated later on. You then did this gaslighting bullshit about how I'll never believe what you haven't said is true. You said I moved the goalposts, but instead I refused to play your framing game that set you up to gaslight me. I further explained my position, where I insisted that there's little to be gained from you're assertions. I don't care much about Don's character. The facade that was presented demanded stripping vanity. He was made in to a cartoon character. He's not going to be perfect. Besides, he grew up in NY and was surrounded by noses. When I went in to even deeper detail about the futility of communicating in this way with you, you then pulled this "aha! gotcha!" trick, pretending you were never suggesting what you clearly were and that you pulled a fast one on me. I reject that as well. Any reasonable person would've made that assumption. Now you're playing this pilpul game to erode my confidence. But I'm still not going to do that shit with you. Look, I don't have strong memories of you. You've never made that much of an impact. If anything, I have you filed away under, "not typically worth engaging outside of insulting out of boredom". I don't care about whatever club you're in. I don't care about your feelings. Whatever retarded shit you're trying to pull on me, which I expect isn't you just "holding up a mirror", isn't working and it won't work. I'm not going to waste my focus on someone I don't think can teach me things. From what I can tell, you aren't want of the few people that come here I'm eager to interact with. Besides, I'm clearly, as you've pointed out, not focused on my own faults or anything. I don't care about how you perceive me so there isn't room for self-criticism. Convince yourself of what you'd like. I'm not explaining my methods or my reasoning to you.