If you are a land owner and have the right to vote. Then for some reason out of your control you have no choice but to sell your land, putting you in the position of living on the land of another land owning voter, who gives up their vote?
This can't be a real question. You're not longer a land owner. Also voting isn't a right.
e; Also I'm having trouble thinking of a situation that would lead to someone NEEDING to sell their land. Wouldn't happen. Medical bills don't exist. In a White society that has high trust, high morals, zero violence, excellent health etc. Socialized healthcare is a thing as is socialized "insurance" for property etc. (due to natural disasters, ALA what FEMA should be)
ee; Also my apologies I suppose you might reply in the seconds before I edit to where 1) you don't see my edit and 2) I don't see your reply which causes confusion. I don't multipreply, I edit to keep a smoother conversational flow going rather than branching off.
To your edits: I am to blame. I don't post or engage often. I'm the slow kid.
The wonderful world in your head is almost as strange and magical as the one in mine.
Voting is indeed a right. Without that right we are left with the "Devine Right Of Kings" and the like. The right to vote, like all other rights, are not granted by the government but should be protected by it. To vote for representation is a needful thing in a large population. No democracy, fuck that. That's just mob rule. But I think that well managed representative republicanism might have a chance. The same way that capitalism might have a chance if we could get the crony-ism out of either of them.
I think I get where your coming from though. You want a test. I want a test. Yours is land ownership. Now that you've made me thing of it... I want basic cognizance. Not some psychyo-schistoso shit. Just the basics: identify a man, identify a woman, are there any other choices, can one become the other, is there any use in joining same to same. That's all. A wrong answer shuts it down.
You may say that "A wrong answer" is open to interpretation and may not turn out the way I think. I would say the same thing to land ownership. Just look at where we are. The answer is the same either way. When the time comes it will get very uncomfortable for people on the unpopular side of the scale.
Voting is NOT a right. Get out of the United States if you think it is, i it isn't.
No democracy...
Okay then voting isn't a right. A right is something which is not discernible among differences in people. If X group has this citizen ability but Y group does not, it's not a right. Then it's a privilege. The reason being is obvious as fuck but... I dunno man, go back to school: voting isn't a right. The moment you treat voting as a right it starts morphing into a (((right))) by way of subverting the definition of those who are allowed such right. The moment you restrict the "right" you've already admitted that it's not a right (White, Male, property owner). You can see this now and for the last century with the 2nd (and to a lesser extent but more rapidly apparent the 1st) in how it's slowly restricted more, and more, and more. While the 2nd is a God-given right, it isn't seen as such by the jews in power and it's not treated as such. The second amendment ceased being a right (in effect, not actuality) 1939 with Miller V US.
I follow you. I try to base my political thinking in Natural Law Theory; what I can do takes nothing away from others. My owning a gun has no impact on your owning or not owning a gun. My speaking, believing, or associating has no impact upon your speaking, believing, or associating. Voting is a construct of government and is therefore not a right but a privilege that should be reserved to citizens as defined in my original thought. Where I was falling short was in the discrimination. You say White land owners. I wonder about situations like my own. I own my house, not the land it's built on. My sister and brother-in-law live with me because we like each other and the easing of living expense. He's reasonably educated and thinks for himself. We don't always agree but, as you and I have here, we can articulate our differences and appreciate the others point of view even if neither of us is swayed. Who votes?
Your argument is that I vote because I own the house. I have trouble with that because he's a rational individual with a mind of his own. He may be swayed by input from my sister but so might I be by a wife (we're none of us perfect). It seems to me that there should be some way of sorting out what a "household" is when selecting an elector that might probe deeper than a residential address.
That last sentence is retarded. You can't probe deeper without granting intrusive powers to either the state or federal government. I'm just not sure how else to look at it.
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