When the last jew is found and exterminated without mercy like the rest of his kind, then we can focus on reinventing the way we see the world, for then the white man can see things with clarity for the first time in their existences. Whatever kind of society they create, it will be glorious.

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Why do you Christians always talk like children on these sites? I swear on my mother's grave, we have lost the ability to have arguments and discussions. I propose that before we discuss anything, we go back to the old Greek rules of formal debate and argumentation.

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Exactly HOW am I talking like a children there cupcake? Post a RELEVANT (and support your ideas) reply. OTHERWISE you're just like a petulant child spouting off.

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Your comment was very difficult to read, it was like a child had written it.

But you want me to talk about your claims, and I guess thats fair.

Good arguements stand on their own merits, even if they are poorly delivered.

Ok, let me break down this mess:

and WHO started that? and WHO manipulates that to HIS liking?

No one. It's all entirely natural forces without any intention behind them. So not a "who", but a "what". Even if there is a "who", its more likely to be soneone that is of limited power in their own level of reality, but of great power in this one, solely due to it being a lower level of reality.

BTW, That's what separates simulation hypothesis from gnosticism: in the simulation hypothesis, our God is just another mundane being of his species in his level of reality, possessed of no extraordinary level of power. No where in gnosticism is it treated as a possibility that the true God of this reality was a computer science nerd who got himself crammed into a locker back when he was in high school.

and WE cannot?

If the reality formed without a creator, then the answer is yes, we indeed probably cannot do what we have no reason to think is possible. But if simulation hypothesis is true, then perhaps we could be gods of our own simulated realities like the being who made us, who himself may be living in a simulation of yet another being. But somewhere up the chain of simulations there would have to be a realest reality that formed from entirely unintended causes. Perhaps this is that layer of reality, and we start the chain of simulated realities.

what's your point? NONE of what you said negates the existence of an ARCHITECT, CREATOR, controller.

Its not my responsibility to falsify the existence of a creator, but it is your responsibility to justify belief in the existence of one.

As an aside here, even if we accept that "the existence of anything necessitates the existence of a creator", you are still only arguing for deism here, not Christianity.

Second, if everything needs to be created from some creator's conscious efforts, the obvious issue is with where the creator came from. Us ot an infinite tower of creators? Or does it terminate somewhere? If it terminates, then a creator needs no creator of their own, and Occam's razor then requires us to ask why reality needs one.

We've been through all this before.

LOT's of humans come up with PLAUSIBLE explanations.

Of which God is no longer one. Best you can get is some computer programmer in a higher universe, who's a big deal here, but not much to speak of in his own world.

Better a possible answer, then one which is not.

Thing is, what we HAVE (relevant to just us) is a PERFECT machine for GRADING good vs evil on EVERYTHING. Truth = good = pass, LIES = evil = fail.

Ok, so Christianity is evil, because its not true. I think we can prove it due to us having mapped out the whole world and never finding the garden of eden. Us having built skyscrapers without encountering God, and us sending out satellites without worrying about the firmamentbthat keeps the water of the cosmos from flooding us, there is no magic to turn sticks into snakes, leprosy is not caused by a curse, and a variety of other claims the Bible makes, none of which are able to be waved away with "its magic" or "its poetry".

Not to mention that within the first part of the Bible, God lies and Satan tells the truth, therefore according to you, God was evil, and Satan was good. Adam and Eve did not die, as God said they would, and they did come to see good and evil, as the serpent claimed they would.

The rest of it is just your opinions, and you are entitled to them. I have no response.

Except to say thst I too have ideas about good and evil, and I wish to increase good and reduce evil as much as I am able. I just define things a bit differently from you.

Your comment was very difficult to read, it was like a child had written it. But you want me to talk about your claims, and I guess thats fair. Good arguements stand on their own merits, even if they are poorly delivered. Ok, let me break down this mess: >and WHO started that? and WHO manipulates that to HIS liking? No one. It's all entirely natural forces without any intention behind them. So not a "who", but a "what". Even if there is a "who", its more likely to be soneone that is of limited power in their own level of reality, but of great power in this one, solely due to it being a lower level of reality. BTW, That's what separates simulation hypothesis from gnosticism: in the simulation hypothesis, our God is just another mundane being of his species in his level of reality, possessed of no extraordinary level of power. No where in gnosticism is it treated as a possibility that the true God of this reality was a computer science nerd who got himself crammed into a locker back when he was in high school. > and WE cannot? If the reality formed without a creator, then the answer is yes, we indeed probably cannot do what we have no reason to think is possible. But if simulation hypothesis is true, then perhaps we could be gods of our own simulated realities like the being who made us, who himself may be living in a simulation of yet another being. But somewhere up the chain of simulations there would have to be a realest reality that formed from entirely unintended causes. Perhaps this is that layer of reality, and we start the chain of simulated realities. > what's your point? NONE of what you said negates the existence of an ARCHITECT, CREATOR, controller. Its not my responsibility to falsify the existence of a creator, but it is your responsibility to justify belief in the existence of one. As an aside here, even if we accept that "the existence of anything necessitates the existence of a creator", you are still only arguing for deism here, not Christianity. Second, if everything needs to be created from some creator's conscious efforts, the obvious issue is with where the creator came from. Us ot an infinite tower of creators? Or does it terminate somewhere? If it terminates, then a creator needs no creator of their own, and Occam's razor then requires us to ask why reality needs one. We've been through all this before. >LOT's of humans come up with PLAUSIBLE explanations. Of which God is no longer one. Best you can get is some computer programmer in a higher universe, who's a big deal here, but not much to speak of in his own world. Better a possible answer, then one which is not. >Thing is, what we HAVE (relevant to just us) is a PERFECT machine for GRADING good vs evil on EVERYTHING. Truth = good = pass, LIES = evil = fail. Ok, so Christianity is evil, because its not true. I think we can prove it due to us having mapped out the whole world and never finding the garden of eden. Us having built skyscrapers without encountering God, and us sending out satellites without worrying about the firmamentbthat keeps the water of the cosmos from flooding us, there is no magic to turn sticks into snakes, leprosy is not caused by a curse, and a variety of other claims the Bible makes, none of which are able to be waved away with "its magic" or "its poetry". Not to mention that within the first part of the Bible, God lies and Satan tells the truth, therefore according to you, God was evil, and Satan was good. Adam and Eve did not die, as God said they would, and they did come to see good and evil, as the serpent claimed they would. The rest of it is just your opinions, and you are entitled to them. I have no response. Except to say thst I too have ideas about good and evil, and I wish to increase good and reduce evil as much as I am able. I just define things a bit differently from you.