> There is a very large fallacy with what you and your link are trying to say. I knew better than to even include that tidbit, as it isn't as well evidenced as the main argument, nor is it even related to the main argument, and I knew you would latch onto that as the basis of your reply. For clarity's sake: The main argument: **the lineage from the Phoenicians seafaring empire to the modern 'jewish' shipping/trading/warfare empires** (e.g. (((the Vanderbilts, the Schiffs))), et. al.) **is unbroken**. The aside: **it is futile to assume any country's distant history is valid,** especially in the face of evidence or deliberate falsification and deliberate destruction. Further, our primary and \*only\* method of discovering forgery is to compare the histories of countries to each other, especially countries warring or otherwise enemies. Finally, there is evidence to suggest the Indians were sacked at some point too, which should cause extra suspicion. > You need to understand the Rigveda The Vedas are all numbered in hymn and verse - it should be dead easy to cite. Please provide cites. > The Jews were a migrating people from North Africa that moved to the Levant also crossed into the Arabian Peninsula. This is also one I'm very curious about. I have made it a passion of mine to study the oldest source texts for our history, the origins of our philosophy, and our science, and haven't even seen a text anywhere near the time frame of interest here. Again, if you are anywhere out of proximity of recent history, forgery becomes very common. Even the bible, known as the 'best preserved' ancient text, is rife with forgery after the Catholic Church lost most of the books during the dark ages. They offered huge bounties, roughly equivalent to a years pay at hard labor, and thus forgery was a huge business, which the Church then tried to root out. The vedas had no such organization maintaining them and claim to be even older, so do try to be reasonable here. > They adopted the regional language which was prominent due to the Phoenicians This is supposition. I've personally studied this, trying to determine which was a precursor to which, and there are no records, only more supposition. Do keep that in mind.