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as long as you don't proclaim it as a "truth" because that proclamation would make you the ONE defining for all other ONEs what ALL means.

I think this is reasonable - in a way. What you are basically saying is that we are finite creatures and we cannot, by our own powers anyway, fully understand the Divine. This is in accord with Church teaching.

But to say we can understand nothing of the Divine is a mistake. We have a rational nature, and the universe is intelligible. These two facts enable us to determine certain things that cannot be said of the Divine, and certain things which must be the case, necessarily. This is not the full picture, but it is part of it, and it is a meaningful fragment at that.

because believing represents ONEs ignorance of the rules laid out by the highest authority

If we acknowledge the Most High exists, then we can reasonably expect He would provide sufficiently for His purposes to be fulfilled through us. So it is not unreasonable to suggest that this Most High would provide a means in time (within the realm of motions) to guide those moving things in the use of their free will such that His will is accomplished, voluntarily, by them. That the Most High do this would actually be necessary (given that He chose to create us in the first place), based on what we already said about our inability as finite creatures to understand Him by our own power. So in principle my belief in the Church is not unreasonable, not mere ignorance.

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