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Lets say you stockpile as much or more than you need. Say a thousand gallons of gas and/or diesel.

Lets say you buy the diesel at $5.50/gal.

It rises to $6 after a season.

You sell to neighbors and people in your community at below the new current price. Say $5.75

You then go out and use this $5.75, to subsidize the cost of buying the more expensive gas or diesel.

Effectively, by undercutting the gas stations locally, you have provided cheaper gasoline to your neighbors, who will have effectively subsidized the cost of your your current gas purchases.

You won't make a profit in the "strict" sense, even though you're selling above your original cost, but thats not the purpose of this.

Instead, you will be that much more inflation-proof having done this.

This is not financial advice. I am not a financial advisor.

it's more like preparedness advice.

Lets say you stockpile as much or more than you need. Say a thousand gallons of gas and/or diesel. Lets say you buy the diesel at $5.50/gal. It rises to $6 after a season. You sell to neighbors and people in your community at *below* the new current price. Say $5.75 You then go out and use this $5.75, to subsidize the cost of buying the more expensive gas or diesel. Effectively, by undercutting the gas stations locally, you have provided cheaper gasoline to your neighbors, who will have effectively subsidized the cost of your *your* current gas purchases. You won't make a profit in the "strict" sense, even though you're selling above your original cost, but thats not the purpose of this. Instead, you will be that much more inflation-proof having done this. This is not financial advice. I am not a financial advisor. it's more like preparedness advice.

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If you try to force the competition to lower the price by undercutting them for an extended period of time, it can backfire because the competition has not leeway to lower prices - they have to sit out until you run out of fuel. Maybe you can force them out of the market, but then your scheme stops.

If the price is 5 now and 6 next year, you have gained nothing if the overall inflation was 20% too.

Fuel ages fast. You need expensive stuff to prevent that.

If you are a huge player, you can make contracts to buy a lot of fuel in 6 months. Then you can sell into the shortage you caused yourself.

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The root problem are the criminals occupying the government: they are actively causing scarcity by taking fuel production out. We are dancing around the problem by working within the system they're creating.

All this global climate change bullshit is designed to destroy our energy infrastructure and thus our society. Without diesel, our society cannot sustain itself.

Electric vehicles are not viable. We can't generate enough electricity to power electric vehicles. Period.

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Regarding our last conversation... Price targets were on track as you said. We hit 4.79 then the target price of was skipped all together with a couple ~20¢ price jumps. What are your thoughts on this?

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Regarding our last conversation... Price targets were on track as you said. We hit 4.79 then the target price of was skipped all together with a couple ~20¢ price jumps. What are your thoughts on this?

Whats happening, as far as I can tell is, when you see regular increases, and then three, four, five, or more days in a row of virtually no movement, it's because the markets have been given an undisclosed temporary moratorium to allow for public adjustment to the new prices. I'm working this into my current projections, but for example, this was my latest, which I had intended to post but ended up busy:

https://pic8.co/sh/HebXlr.png

Just a day off the mark, and a cock-hair off the price by a few tenths.

Edit: If the underlying assumptions are correct, then there should be occasional random 'snap backs' when the industry internal pricing, and the public facing (false) prices diverge too much for the market to tolerate.

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5.19 https://pic8.co/sh/gOjDJ3.jpg

Was 4.99 yesterday. 4.69 one week ago. Something is up. Prices are jumping faster than normal.

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Was 4.99 yesterday. 4.69 one week ago. Something is up. Prices are jumping faster than normal.

War probably.

The articles on russia (as told by u.s. glowies Rping independent news sources) claiming "the u.s. is trying to bleed russia dry in a war of attrition", turned out to be more projection.

It was u.s. intel telling us that russia was bleeding the u.s. dry .

Ballsy fucking move given the comparative apparent strengths, but they have insider information that we don't.

War is whats up. Because the u.s. finally realized it can't risk the house of cards continuing to fight a losing proxy war.

Guess russia finally called our bluff.

It'll be interesting to see if we actually respond this time, or do what we usually do, which is double down.

Gas prices might of course just be the summer jump, or credit markets shitting themselves, or profit-taking ahead of demand destruction.

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Fuel has a shelf life.

You would have to store it in a way to properly rotate it, then its still not great advice.

Storing for oneself, I can see, storing to sell at a slight markup, while still buying, seems ludicrous.

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Storing for oneself, I can see, storing to sell at a slight markup, while still buying, seems ludicrous.

You buy at 5.50. You sell at 5.75, when all the stations are selling at $6 six months later. Everyone you offer to buys from you for the extra $0.25/gal. You have just effectively reduced your current fuel purchases to 0.25/gal for yourself given the money from your fuel sales.

Is it that ludicrous after all?

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You didnt reduce your fuel price to 25c a gallon.

You still paid the initial 5.50 for the gallon. ok you got 5.75, so you have 25c profit, the new cost of 6$ fuel, is 5.75, yes the quarter profit you made is applied for this.

Now your attempting to obfuscate this loss of the initial 5.50... by saying my current cost is 25c... You've stil eaten the cost of the 5.50, from the initial purchase.

Now for that 25c profit, which should just be 50c savings, if you just bought for yourself.

How much did the cost of the storage take? How much time are you investing in maintaining and rotating fuel? How much effort are you expending for that 25c?

I am sure you can find a more profitable way to make 25c/gal with that amount of time, and seed money.

If you want to protect yourself from inflation, the only way to do it is to bring in more income.

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Now your attempting to obfuscate this loss of the initial 5.50... buy saying my current cost is 25c... You've stil eaten the cost of the 5.50, from the initial purchase. Now for that 25c profit, which should just be 50c savings, if you just bought for yourself.

God damn, you're right. I must be more tired or more tarded than I thought.

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What? But Hollywood has been telling me that I can start any car with gas that has been sitting for years.

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And maybe you can. But I wouldnt count on it.

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I always treat it like leaving ethanol fuel in a lawn mower. Gums up the works.

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