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This is a war of attrition.

It's an artillery conflict.

The ukes don't have the artillery to fight, so if they continue, it is a matter of when they will lose, not if .

However what they CAN do is force the russians to waste shells.

How?

Spreading out their front.

This is what the allies did to the Germans in ww2. They spread their ranks really thin so the Germans would take ground, and have too much ground to hold while being pot-shotted at every turn. The Germans then ended up constantly wasting time taking strategically unimportant territory.

I thought this would be obvious, but apparently it wasn't.

By spreading out their forces, the russian artillery has to bomb even larger areas, bomb em flat no less, thus using more shells, and increasing the collateral and damaging international relations because the effect of an even larger bombing campaign is this: It can be characterized as a dramatic escalation, even from the current narrative stand point.

More importantly, by spreading out, the ukrainians can stay more mobile. I'm talking 2-4 man fire teams, at most, spread out, at minimum, in such a way, that no one bomber or artillery can reroute or readjust fast enough to take out more than one group at a time.

The ukes should be staying light, mobile, spread out, and using this mobility to plant mines that bog down the russian tank advance, and force them into kill corridors, in order to maximize the effectiveness of the ukrainian artillery. The mine planting also helps as a force magnifier, because it serves as zone denial, it's "wall building" without walls. And it creates an excuse for mobility, which will keep the guys alive.

In a pinch a hole dug for artillery is a grave, or a trench. If you can't take out tanks from above (because you ran out of manpads and javelins), take them out from below.

For fighting drones, the ukes, if they don't have thermal BDUs, need to immediately gear up with cheap space blankets and ONLY fight at night.

Not only this, but the artillery and mining they do, should be designed to psychologically condition russian forces, to move, and react, in a manner that is predictable and containable.

Do this enough and the russian troop movements won't just become predictable, but will become controllable . They'll just avoid those areas you mine/trap with IEDs, and likewise those firelines you hit with artillery, or they'll be forced to clear them, losing time and making their forces vulnerable.

It'll waste artillery, and other resources, but the control or shaping of russian movements, that it will yield, will be huge.

I apologize in advance to any Russians. The domestic abortion narrative has to be killed in its crib (pun intended) and the best way to do that is to force the news back onto ukraine.

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This is a war of attrition. It's an artillery conflict. The ukes don't have the artillery to fight, so if they continue, it is a matter of *when* they will lose, not *if*. However what they CAN do is force the russians to *waste* shells. How? Spreading out their front. This is what the allies did to the Germans in ww2. They spread their ranks really thin so the Germans would take ground, and have too much ground to hold while being pot-shotted at every turn. The Germans then ended up constantly wasting time taking strategically unimportant territory. I thought this would be obvious, but apparently it wasn't. By spreading out their forces, the russian artillery has to bomb even *larger* areas, bomb em flat no less, thus using more shells, and increasing the collateral and damaging international relations because the effect of an even larger bombing campaign is this: It can be characterized as a *dramatic* escalation, even from the current narrative stand point. More importantly, by spreading out, the ukrainians can stay more mobile. I'm talking 2-4 man fire teams, at most, spread out, at minimum, in such a way, that no one bomber or artillery can reroute or readjust fast enough to take out more than one group at a time. The ukes should be staying light, mobile, spread out, and using this mobility to plant mines that bog down the russian tank advance, and force them into kill corridors, in order to maximize the effectiveness of the ukrainian artillery. The mine planting also helps as a force magnifier, because it serves as zone denial, it's "wall building" without walls. And it creates an excuse for mobility, which will keep the guys alive. In a pinch a hole dug for artillery is a grave, or a trench. If you can't take out tanks from above (because you ran out of manpads and javelins), take them out from below. For fighting drones, the ukes, if they don't have thermal BDUs, need to immediately gear up with cheap space blankets and ONLY fight at night. Not only this, but the artillery and mining they do, should be designed to *psychologically condition* russian forces, to move, and react, in a manner that is predictable and containable. Do this enough and the russian troop movements won't just become predictable, but will become *controllable*. They'll just avoid those areas you mine/trap with IEDs, and likewise those firelines you hit with artillery, or they'll be forced to clear them, losing time and making their forces vulnerable. It'll waste artillery, and other resources, but the control or shaping of russian movements, that it will yield, will be huge. I apologize in advance to any Russians. The domestic abortion narrative has to be killed in its crib (pun intended) and the best way to do that is to force the news back onto ukraine.

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[–] 1 pt 2y

This is what the Ukrainians do anyway. There is not enough diesel left for moving heavy weapons around, so they now rely on civilian cars. Turkey has rented them HTS (Al-Qaida) fighters as mercenaries who teach them how to do terrorism against an overwhelming force: IEDs, lone snipers, anti-aircraft guns on Toyotas, taking civilians as hostages, and car bombs. Just haven't seen Ukrainian suicide bombers yet, it seems that they are not THAT fanatic.

[–] 1 pt 2y

anti-aircraft guns on Toyotas

The Toyota Hilux is the choice of revolutionaries everywhere.

[–] 0 pt 2y

This is what the Ukrainians do anyway.

If this war were about more than just that rat zelensky force-marching ukrainians to their own genocide, (and america selling new weapons to NATO while provoking russia), then the ukrainians would be way more organized about their tactics.

What they should have done is promised to release a soldier's family to leave ukraine, only if he volunteers to fight the war. Then they have something to fight for and it is much easier to convince them it is a war of "defending family and homeland to prevent the russians eventually reaching our families."

[–] 0 pt 2y

it seems that they are not THAT fanatic.

conscripts rarely are.

[–] 2 pts 2y

The conscripts would run away if Azov wouldn't act as military police and shoot them in the back.

The Azov guys believe that they act in the tradition of Bandera, but they were co-founded and are owned by an oligarch with Israeli citizenship (Ihor Kolomoyskyi, the same oligarch who sponsored Zelensky). Eight years of propaganda made them fighting for the Heavenly Jerusalem project, the core of the new Khazar Empire. Maybe a few years of additional propaganda will be enough to make them fight like ISIS.