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I have several reasons

Point one: Texas has more red state security than Virginia where those migrants will end up. Migrants can't afford to live in DC. They are not going to be moving into an apartment in George Town a week after being dropped there. They are going to have to head somewhere they can stay. Likely with family. That's going to be Virginia. Everyone I know who lives in Maryland regrets living there, and wishes they could move out. Why would new people move there? Job availability is also higher in Virginia, even though job availability is high everywhere there is just going to be more pull into Virginia. The state seemed doomed to become blue. We had seen it coming for decades because of demographic changes and population distribution changes, but it recently turned red again. It seems as if the hope seemed narrow but there is a chance Virginia could stay red against the demographic pressure if the state plays the cards right. If more migrants than we already have are dumped on us there is no hope. That's it. Virginia is blue. Thanks.

Point two: It facilitates the migrants and gives them more motivation to cross the border. The migrants are being put on buses voluntarily. That means the ones who do go on the bus see going to the DC area as better. You've sweetened the deal for them. These are ones that were fine hopping the border to be in Texas which they would have settled for but were even more thrilled to go to the DC area. Now the ones that wouldn't have even considered it without DC as an option will come too.

Point three: It's not a punishment for DC politicos. Texas politicians see them as a blight, but that's because they are sane. The politicos here have been begging for immigration and have largely got it. DC area illegal immigrants are different than Texan immigrants. We don't have border hoppers. We have visa over stayers. Ours come on a plane. But now you let the political class here know that the more border hopping they help facilitate, they will get bonus immigrants from that cohort as well, you just gave them every reason to not help you seal up the border.

Point four: Aligned with point three that it's not going to help Texas passive aggressively lobby their position like Abbot things. The reality is it helps illegals lobby their position. This is where real political power is. Putting them in proximity to the real decision makers of this country is just going to have their case presented more vocally, as if it isn't already vocal enough in this area. Virginia has always been where the real power is. More presidents have been Virginians than any other state for a reason. The real power in this country doesn't reside in DC, but where DC's lawyer class lives and works in Arlington and Alexandria. When you live in this area you automatically get more political say and the ear of people who have political say. This is exactly Texas's problem. They feel ignored and like their problems are ignored. The fact that they feel that way, and are largely right in their feelings, absolutely demonstrates that proximity to authority/power, or the lack of it, provides the difference between no say in what happens like they have verses having a say. So sending them to DC will lobby against Texas's needs, not for it.

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I have several reasons Point one: Texas has more red state security than Virginia where those migrants will end up. Migrants can't afford to live in DC. They are not going to be moving into an apartment in George Town a week after being dropped there. They are going to have to head somewhere they can stay. Likely with family. That's going to be Virginia. Everyone I know who lives in Maryland regrets living there, and wishes they could move out. Why would new people move there? Job availability is also higher in Virginia, even though job availability is high everywhere there is just going to be more pull into Virginia. The state seemed doomed to become blue. We had seen it coming for decades because of demographic changes and population distribution changes, but it recently turned red again. It seems as if the hope seemed narrow but there is a chance Virginia could stay red against the demographic pressure if the state plays the cards right. If more migrants than we already have are dumped on us there is no hope. That's it. Virginia is blue. Thanks. Point two: It facilitates the migrants and gives them more motivation to cross the border. The migrants are being put on buses voluntarily. That means the ones who do go on the bus see going to the DC area as better. You've sweetened the deal for them. These are ones that were fine hopping the border to be in Texas which they would have settled for but were even more thrilled to go to the DC area. Now the ones that wouldn't have even considered it without DC as an option will come too. Point three: It's not a punishment for DC politicos. Texas politicians see them as a blight, but that's because they are sane. The politicos here have been begging for immigration and have largely got it. DC area illegal immigrants are different than Texan immigrants. We don't have border hoppers. We have visa over stayers. Ours come on a plane. But now you let the political class here know that the more border hopping they help facilitate, they will get bonus immigrants from that cohort as well, you just gave them every reason to not help you seal up the border. Point four: Aligned with point three that it's not going to help Texas passive aggressively lobby their position like Abbot things. The reality is it helps illegals lobby their position. This is where real political power is. Putting them in proximity to the real decision makers of this country is just going to have their case presented more vocally, as if it isn't already vocal enough in this area. Virginia has always been where the real power is. More presidents have been Virginians than any other state for a reason. The real power in this country doesn't reside in DC, but where DC's lawyer class lives and works in Arlington and Alexandria. When you live in this area you automatically get more political say and the ear of people who have political say. This is exactly Texas's problem. They feel ignored and like their problems are ignored. The fact that they feel that way, and are largely right in their feelings, absolutely demonstrates that proximity to authority/power, or the lack of it, provides the difference between no say in what happens like they have verses having a say. So sending them to DC will lobby against Texas's needs, not for it.

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but it recently turned red again. It seems as if the hope seemed narrow but there is a chance Virginia could stay red

Doubtful. In terms of policy the governor will either cave (without explicitly caving), like RINOs tend to do. The claim that they "tried" to stop the other side but will get them "next time". Or he will do nothing and claim something about small government and non-interfererence. Or he will pass bills but fail to fund enforcement, or fail to add teeth to the bill.

Or he will be everthing people think the governor is, and be booted out of office after one term, either through fraud or failure to campaign, like hillary did the night of the elections.

This is how elections are controlled.

What they can't pass under the democrats, they instead pass under the republicans.

I promise you, two years from now, or twenty, if the AR-15 is banned again, it will be under a republican this time.

[–] 0 pt 3y

I read your points." Migrants can't afford to live in DC" Im not delving any farther into your shit.

[–] 0 pt 3y

Fuck all that. Dump them on DC where the liberal fed workers live. Flood the area with 500,000 immigrants and watch the change. This is a genius move. If they won't visit the border, bring the border to them. Drop them off in the DHS parking lot.

[–] 0 pt 3y (edited 3y)

You really don't understand this area. A flood will not change anything. It's already flooded. More isn't going to change anything. Spicsville DC doesn't care about the boarder because precisely it is spicsville. The few whites we have that are already fed up are the only shot you have of someone (us) taking the wheel and reverting course. If you flood us out further we can't help you. We've just gotten hope of our very narrow shot of wrestling back power in this area, and you are going to snuff it out.

[–] 2 pts 3y

I know Loudon, Fairfax, Prince William and Stafford quite well. Full of Executive Branch GS workers and contractors. As long as it is livable, it will be a haven for liberals. Town homes and strip malls. Myopic virtue signalers shopping at Whole Food with a Starbucks in hand. A couple of Baltimore style MS-13 shootouts and a few carjackings might unwoke enough to make a change.

[–] 0 pt 3y (edited 3y)

Hasn't so far. You know Herndon was the definitive HQ of MS-13 in the US when they first decided to set up here, way back in the mid 2000s. That didn't change anything.

I know the history of the spicification of this area well. You think more spicification is going to help? Why does it help the democrats seize power everywhere from 5%-55%, but from 55% to 80% it will help whites wrestle back power in this area. Our politics becomes the applied politics of the country whether other areas like it or not so which ever of us is right it matters. I think we want the same thing, to have the currently timid right resurgence here to have long term success and to becomes less timid, because it will ultimately become the applied politics of the country. I think we just disagree if more beaners helps or hurts.