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It's the move of cowards terrified of dying. Thats 100% why anyone would do it despite the propaganda loss doing it entails.

The very fact they chose to hide behind citizens knowing how that looks, tells you it's because they are scared and bluffing.

They're using human shields because their "stock to flow" of troops is too low even to survive without russian mercy to sustain them.

To hold the territory, russian will have to do things that will likely alienate the territory.

This is the breaking point for russia's strategy.

The u.s. is desperate and now pulling out all the stops.

If russia calls the bluff and bombs battalions using human shields, it will send the unequivocal message to the u.s. and Zalansky that "russia is prepared to USE EVERY WEAPON in its arsenal. To do anything, anything necessary, to win, regardless of the cost."

He will back down, because like his men, he is a coward and an actor.

The ukrainians citizens seeing the death of their own will realise one of two things:

"Russians are the ultimate evil" (which, if the war goes on long enough, the propaganda will cause them to believe anyway)

or

"if we are gonna be forced to die t the hands of azov who use us as human shields, we might as well kill azov and zelensky ourselves!"

If I ran Russia's military, I would simultenously also start to drop food and medicine for Ukrainian citizens, and elevate a few Russian soldiers, not for their ruthlessness, but ones that showed mercy or restraint.

The victory is the merger of the contradictory narratives of utter ruthlessness with a just and limited war .

Zelensky knows what the game on the ground is anyway, so it doesn't matter what he thinks. Likewise the u.s. which already had it in for russia.

Even if Russia backs off now, the u.s. has seen this as the ultimate proof that Russia and China are a threat, and will now move to quickly destroy both.

Their only hopes for survival is to nail ukraine's leadership to the wall, like christ driving out demons into a herd of swine.

The oligarchs are fleeing to israel not out of fear of their assets being taken, but because they expect and are likely demanding behind close doors tht the u.s. move to prepare for a full all-out war against Russia. Beijing has concluded the same, which is why they are now siding with russia while at the same time playing tight-lipped and trying to lightly project slight neutrality.

The u.s. is still bluffing on this, but if the regime realizes that this war is now a referendum on its credibility and by extension, the dollar, it will take us to war none-the-less.

I think there is a good probability that the outcome no one wants (full war) will play out, and if not, a failure of the dollar. In the latter case, where world war 3 doesn't happen, this is seen as a bellweather that the u.s. no longer has the military might to enforce dollar status. In the former case, full war, it happens anyway, because currency won't matter in a world war.

I'll put the probability of a world war AND/OR global economic super-depression from a failed dollar (inflation at 10-15% annually) at 60-70% within the next 18-24 months.

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It's the move of cowards terrified of dying. Thats 100% why anyone would do it despite the propaganda loss doing it entails. The very fact they chose to hide behind citizens *knowing* how that looks, tells you it's because they are scared and bluffing. They're using human shields because their "stock to flow" of troops is *too low even to survive* without russian mercy to sustain them. To hold the territory, russian will have to do things that will likely *alienate* the territory. This is the breaking point for russia's strategy. The u.s. is desperate and now pulling out all the stops. If russia calls the bluff and bombs battalions using human shields, it will send the *unequivocal* message to the u.s. and Zalansky that "russia is prepared to USE EVERY WEAPON in its arsenal. To do anything, anything necessary, to win, regardless of the cost." He will back down, because like his men, he is a coward and an actor. The ukrainians citizens seeing the death of their own will realise one of two things: "Russians are the ultimate evil" (which, if the war goes on long enough, the propaganda will cause them to believe anyway) or "if we are gonna be forced to die t the hands of azov who use us as human shields, we might as well kill azov and zelensky ourselves!" If I ran Russia's military, I would simultenously also start to drop food and medicine for Ukrainian citizens, and elevate a few Russian soldiers, not for their ruthlessness, but ones that showed mercy or restraint. The victory is the merger of the contradictory narratives of *utter ruthlessness* with *a just and limited war*. Zelensky knows what the game on the ground is anyway, so it doesn't matter what he thinks. Likewise the u.s. which already had it in for russia. Even if Russia backs off now, the u.s. has seen this as the ultimate proof that Russia and China *are* a threat, and will now move to quickly destroy both. Their only hopes for survival is to nail ukraine's leadership to the wall, like christ driving out demons into a herd of swine. The oligarchs are fleeing to israel not out of fear of their assets being taken, but because they expect and are likely demanding behind close doors tht the u.s. move to prepare for a full all-out war against Russia. Beijing has concluded the same, which is why they are now siding with russia while at the same time playing tight-lipped and trying to lightly project *slight* neutrality. The u.s. is still bluffing on this, but if the regime realizes that this war is now a referendum on its credibility and by extension, the dollar, it will take us to war none-the-less. I think there is a good probability that the outcome no one wants (full war) will play out, and if not, a failure of the dollar. In the latter case, where world war 3 doesn't happen, this is seen as a bellweather that the u.s. no longer has the military might to enforce dollar status. In the former case, full war, it happens anyway, because currency won't matter in a world war. I'll put the probability of a world war AND/OR global economic super-depression from a failed dollar (inflation at 10-15% annually) at 60-70% within the next 18-24 months.

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[–] 5 pts 3y

China India the middle east have already told the USA to bugger off. They aren't following USA diktat or listening to any threats. That's more than half the world population. Other countries see this.

[–] 4 pts 3y

That's more than half the world population. Other countries see this.

Keen eye there.

However, it is not what half the world's population wants that matters. It's what the u.s. vultures in leadership and the NGOs can cook up to drag other nation's leadership along--thats what matters.

This being the make-or-break moment for the u.s. dollar, they must be desperate. So the longer this goes on, the better the chance they come up with something that works.

[–] 2 pts 3y

The more the other countries see the emperor has no clothes. Japan just committed to investing 50+ billion dollars into India. Even the Pakis, the actual Pakis, not the India pakis, have cut deals with Russia for natural gas and wheat. They are historically at odds with Russia since Russia is a solid friend of India pakis.

The USA writ no longer runs with many countries. The shine is off. The cabal running the West is exposed and unless they are prepared for Armageddon, they've sealed their own fate.

[–] 1 pt 3y (edited 3y)

The u.s. regime assuming its not orchestrating a firesale of america (it is), or a looting of ukraine (it is), or a bleeding-and-then-sell-off of russia (maybe), really needs a subnuclear war to survive.

They can't nuke the opposition without pissing off the higher ups among the international clique, and possibly getting counter-bombed.

What the u.s. COULD do is nuke itself and blame it on russia. We play the high road, have a victim narrative, and get NATO entry into ukraine, knowing Russia won't resort to nukes (because underlaying MAD is a tacit no-first-strike policy, regardless of what anyone else claims ).

Nothings gonna one-up 9/11 and corona virus except a nuke false-flag or a worse bioweapon, so I figure besides totalitarianism at home, those are Americas options.

The benefit of a homeland based false flag is that its harder for opponents to investigate because the u.s. controls u.s. territory, naturally. And with the nuclear option, few third parties will be willing to investigate. Anyone who does, the CIA or FBI or DOJ can kill, and blame their death (and 'data loss' from their electronics) on "radiation poisoning".

The exclusion zone then also becomes a plausible excuse and staging ground for all sorts of behind-the-fence off-the-books black budget activities.

The other benefit is, to the state, they get the nuclear war narrative, without the nuclear war, and without becoming the perpetrator in starting such a war. And its so insane an idea, that to suggest the u.s. government would do it to itself is completely unbelievable. The u.s. could pin it on any nation.

A foreign nation can't retaliate to a nuclear strike (a proper missile, OR a dirty one), if they were never the one hit by it to start with.

Except for the insanity of the idea, it's an unassailable tactic for a desperate regime. I think the u.s. would lose the last shred of its credibility if it happened. Ideally it would be in a sparsely populated region, like Nevada.

God damn, maybe I have lost my mind. I guess it's true what they say, some men just want to watch the world burn.

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