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It's kind of amazing to me, how long some people will stay miserable rather than do the steps.

"Bravo on the willpower, but you must hate life."

It's kind of amazing to me, how long some people will stay miserable rather than do the steps. "Bravo on the willpower, but you must hate life."

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One true alcoholic...like true communism...so rare it's like a fucking unicorn.

So tell us oh wise one true alcoholic that judges and gate keeps, how have you come to the scientific conclusion there are true alcoholics and "casuals"?

It sounds like you are just making excuses for not busting a nut to go for it before...like Numbers said, just do it.

Previous smoker, quit for 22 years...was a BIAYATCH to quit, but I would be dead if I didn't. Previously did all sorts of drugs and just quit because I decided I was done...believe it or not smoking was harder to quit. I still crave a cigarette, but not drugs. Guess what, no 12 steps....just don't smoke.

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I'm not an alcoholic, I've known alcoholics...

Alcohol to me, it's a limited hangout, like I'm bored why not... For lack of better option. Now the repeat doesn't work on me, it makes me want to just stop like too much of the same

There are people they can't conceive life without a drink, me it's like life without riding a bike for instance... Well, it's not going to change my world

"tell us"

Why do you need to hide behind an imaginary collective, there? To give yourself the importance that you don't have lol?

Rhetorical question...

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What imaginary collective? I have seen heroine addicts and smokers do the same...hell I did as a smoker almost about to die...it's called addiction and you either decided not to be addicted or not. You may fail a few times, but that just means you hadn't decided to quit yet.

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>What imaginary collective?

Stop pretending you're retarded

"So tell us oh wise one true alcoholic" <- there's no "us", there isn't some imaginary public behind you here to support approve and validate what you say

There's just you and me

And humans aren't equals when it comes to addiction, genetics just like for pretty much everything else, sets them apart

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Trust me, we're not rare. You can find the AA big book for free online, and there are large sections that go into great depth explaining the difference between alcoholics and non-alcoholics.

Like OK was saying - It's a kind of insanity. I've worked whole 10 hour shifts while going through alcohol withdrawal, only to repeat the same process again while telling myself I wasn't going to. If you don't get it, good for you. The majority of people who drink won't ever have to understand.

I'd just ask you to be more gracious than to fling shit at people going through something you don't understand.