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Pineal Gland Discussion

Tl;Dr This is a discussion thread. If you don't want to read a lot it's probably not for you, but thank you for stopping by.

Pineal Gland General

Have you not heard of the pineal Gland? Do you not even Joe Rogan (dailystormer.name)?

The argument goes that the Pineal Gland is the part of the body that interfaces with the psychic or spiritual planes -- essentially the third eye or Ajna chakra in modern terms. However, most of our Pineal Glands are unnecessarily calcified, due to flouride exposure in our youth. If we could only decalcify that Pineal, we would be able to be more psychic and more spiritually connected. Some people recommend taking iodine to do just that or to counteract iodine deficiency related to fluoride intake. (pic8.co)

Skeptics assert the above is pseudoscientific, new age bullshit. And they apparently can get quite huffy about if on Q&A sites like Quora. 1 (quora.com) 2 (quora.com)

I can summarize their argument as the following: Flouride doesn't calcify. There is no evidence the Pineal Gland is supposed to perform any spiritual interfacing function, nor is there any evidence that flouride calcifies it and stops this function.

The skeptics arguments strike me as somewhat suspicious because of their tone (adopting a high academic lexicon to appear more intelligent and attempting to shame rather than simply correct the perceived inaccuracies , which I've often seen paired with other dubious viewpoints such as racial universalism, Holocaust trutherism, brexit remain camp, gender wage gap, etc.) and also because their dismissal of flouride as a calcifying agent seems like an overreach and possibly a unicorn truth that ignores the complex interaction of chemicals in the human body.

To wit, my dentist says we flouridate water because dietary flouride causes better calcification of the teeth (only in young people whose bodies are still developing; doesn't do anything for adults really). Whether flouride calcifies the teeth directly or through interactions with other calcifying agents shouldn't matter. The introduction of it to the developing human body eventually leads to calcification of the teeth, according to my dentist. I did not ask the dentist about the Pineal Gland because I assume they would have no opinion to offer.

Yet the skeptics of Pineal Gland calcification do raise an important question: If Pineal Gland calcification is a reality, what is the evidence for it?

Further: What is the evidence for the Pineal Gland's spiritual component or interactions? Is decalcification even possible and if so, through what means?

I'm going to be casually looking into this a little more tonight. Will post answers I find in comments. In the meantime it'd be cool if anyone who knows a little about it would weigh in.

Tl;Dr This is a discussion thread. If you don't want to read a lot it's probably not for you, but thank you for stopping by. #Pineal Gland General Have you not heard of the pineal Gland? Do you not even [Joe Rogan](https://dailystormer.name/joe-rogan-calls-in-sneaky-orthodox-jew-gives-him-two-hour-lecture-on-psychedelic-drugs/)? The argument goes that the Pineal Gland is the part of the body that interfaces with the psychic or spiritual planes -- essentially the third eye or Ajna chakra in modern terms. However, most of our Pineal Glands are unnecessarily calcified, due to flouride exposure in our youth. If we could only decalcify that Pineal, we would be able to be more psychic and more spiritually connected. Some people recommend taking iodine to do just that [or to counteract iodine deficiency related to fluoride intake.](https://pic8.co/sh/zfhhDk.png) Skeptics assert the above is pseudoscientific, new age bullshit. And they apparently can get quite huffy about if on Q&A sites like Quora. [1](https://www.quora.com/Is-it-actually-possible-to-decalcify-the-pineal-gland/answer/Mark-Abrahams-PhD-LMHC) [2](https://www.quora.com/Does-liquid-iodine-really-help-to-decalcify-the-pineal-gland-after-years-of-drinking-water-with-fluoride-in-it/answer/Gerry-Uswak) I can summarize their argument as the following: Flouride doesn't calcify. There is no evidence the Pineal Gland is supposed to perform any spiritual interfacing function, nor is there any evidence that flouride calcifies it and stops this function. The skeptics arguments strike me as somewhat suspicious because of their tone (adopting a high academic lexicon to appear more intelligent and attempting to shame rather than simply correct the perceived inaccuracies , which I've often seen paired with other dubious viewpoints such as racial universalism, Holocaust trutherism, brexit remain camp, gender wage gap, etc.) and also because their dismissal of flouride as a calcifying agent seems like an overreach and possibly a unicorn truth that ignores the complex interaction of chemicals in the human body. To wit, my dentist says we flouridate water because dietary flouride causes better calcification of the teeth (only in young people whose bodies are still developing; doesn't do anything for adults really). Whether flouride calcifies the teeth directly or through interactions with other calcifying agents shouldn't matter. The introduction of it to the developing human body eventually leads to calcification of the teeth, according to my dentist. I did not ask the dentist about the Pineal Gland because I assume they would have no opinion to offer. Yet the skeptics of Pineal Gland calcification do raise an important question: If Pineal Gland calcification is a reality, what is the evidence for it? Further: What is the evidence for the Pineal Gland's spiritual component or interactions? Is decalcification even possible and if so, through what means? I'm going to be casually looking into this a little more tonight. Will post answers I find in comments. In the meantime it'd be cool if anyone who knows a little about it would weigh in.

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Wow, I read the earlier post. Dentist used to give you a shot of fluoride to swish around for at least 30 seconds before spitting. I assume you know about fluoride. Ill have to look more into the pineal gland, last post did that.

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I've heard that dietary flouride interacts with the body differently than topical.

Topical I believe is good for restoring tooth enamel in adults, which is why you get a shot or foam or varnish treatment when you go to the dentist. But the reason we flouridate water is apparently because developing children get much stronger teeth from dietary flouride. Why we push this on everyone instead of encouraging supplementation for children is beyond me, but this is my understand of different applications of flouride.

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I havent seen fluoride treatment from dentists in forever now, having gone to three different ones in the last 20 years. And would refuse it. Its not even easy or cheap to get filters that filter out fluoride from water. If you swish it in your mouth your absorbing it and no way you aint swallowing some. This shit is outlawed in most country's.

I admit to being a bit of a conspiracy theory dude. But fluoride is a drug for the masses.

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My take on it is that topical fluoride treatments are on the better side of cost/benefit, since they are done fairly infrequently and do strengthen teeth, while fluoride in the water is completely unnecessary (since it confers no benefit on adults) and probably more harmful than the spot treatments because of the prolonged and constant exposure. I'm not an expert on this, but that's my uninformed opinion.

edit: I'm not saying topical fluoride does no harm. It probably does some. But even cold medicine does harm in some measure. It's just a cost/benefit thing.

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I came across this in my readings: http://fluoridealert.org/content/top_ten/

No. 3 in the list is fluoride dental treatments

Granted, this site is 100% anti-fluoride

3) Do NOT Get Fluoride Gel Treatments at the Dentist
Although dental researchers have stated on numerous occasions that fluoride gel treatment should ONLY be used for patients at highest risk of cavities, many dentists continue to apply fluoride gels irrespective of the patient’s cavity risk. The fluoride gel procedure requires the patient to clamp down on a tray for 4 minutes and uses an extremely concentrated, acidic fluoride gel (12,300 ppm). Because of the fluoride gel’s high acidity, the saliva glands produce a large amount of saliva during the treatment, which makes it extremely difficult (both for children and adults) to avoid swallowing the gel.

Even when dentists use precautionary measures such as suction devices, children and adults still ingest significant quantities of the paste, which can cause incredibly high spikes of fluoride in the blood (for up to 15 hours). These fluoride levels place patients, particularly children, at risk for stomach pain, nausea and vomiting, and places a person at risk for short-term kidney damage, harm to the reproductive system, and impairment to glucose metabolism. The next time your dentist asks you whether you want a fluoride gel treatment, say NO.

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Oh, if you Decalcify, you'll know it.

Thanks, @Ivan.

Let me know if you guys have questions.

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You mentioned several supplements, including herbal adaptogens you believe may help with this. Can you tell us a little about this and how you figured out they would be helpful?

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Turmeric

Fulvic Acid

Citric Acid

Boron

Iodine

I'm sure I'm missing some.

Oh I should specify - adaptogens don't necessarily help Decalcify, but they're very helpful for a wide range of reasons.

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I've heard good things about the Turmeric. Fulvic I've never heard of before in my life. Citric.. how much? Don't we probably get plenty of this without supplementation? Boron, ah, the Jew supp -- only present in high amounts in Israel, right?

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Wew lad! So much good stuff here. Fluoride is a nasty nurotoxin. The atomic commission back in the late 40s / early 50s said it was safe. They said this because during the production of nuclear bombs massive amounts of the stuff is used.... people got sick and they had to cover their asses. Some side effects of high doses may include: docile behavior, lower IQ, spots on the teeth from weakening bones, liver and kidney disease, bone cancer, reproductive damage, early puberty in girls, thyroid dysfunction, and arthritis. Dosages are not regulated and the average person is exposed to fluoride from many more sources than just in the water. Bottle fed babbies are exposed to the highest levels of flouride. The pineal gland has been called the seat of the soul and many cultures talk of a third eye or connection point for the spirit. In our brain the peneal glad is part of the limbic system. Its main function is to produce melatonin, which regulates sleep, new bone deposition, and the pituitary glad. With all the effects of fluoride on bones it isnt a stretch to think that it would also mess up one of the places in the brain responsible for bone regulation.

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Many claims made. Gonna need sauce m8.

/s/Odd can be the fluoride sub.

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I have this website, if you want.

I'l admit, I haven't looked through it much, though

http://fluoridealert.org/issues/health/

EDIT: I also just had a dentist appointment yesterday. Dentist says I have some of the nicest teeth she's seen. I've also never had fluoride treatments, even when growing up, and I've very rarely drank fluoridated water since I grew up in the sticks with well water.

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Yes, this is helpful. Nice to have a lot of relevant research on fluoride in one place.

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Calcification:

Pardon any errors in summarizing I'm going through these somewhat quickly.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27319034
Abstract indicates calcification of pineal gland can be observed by Xray. Also seems to imply calcification may be part of the aging process.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6017004/ Abstract: Pineal gland has highest calcification rate of any organ in the body. Calcification may be linked to neurological disorders. Article goes on to mention flouride as a possible biohazard contributing to calcification. Rate of calcification may be slowed by reducing flouride intake and, oddly enough, increasing phytate (avoiding this is one of the main reasons people do the Paleo diet afaik). It hypothesizes some medical interventions might be able to decalcify the pineal, but does not make any mention of iodine.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24744187 Abstract suggests link between flouride concentrations in water and calcification rate of a certain duck.

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The concept of calcification will not be founded in virtually any type of academic quality. If it is, it's indeed found, it probably won't be all that honest.

There's good reason for this: calcifying your Pineal Gland grants you extensive spiritual insight. Beyond that, you will start to feel a bit different: more vivid dreaming, better memory and an clearer processing ability. You will feel more in tune with other people too, often causing you to "feel" a gaze, it will be easier "read peoples' thoughts, etc.

Just so you're aware, I'm new to this area for the most part and I myself asked frequently in the beginning what all would change.

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I guess the main question would be how do you know? Did you just take someone's word for it that you need to do x and y to decalcify the pineal and it ended up working out? If there's no honest research out there then how did anyone come to figure out pineal calcification was bad in the first place?

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Did you just take someone's word for it that you need to do x and y to decalcify the pineal and it ended up working out?

More or less. But, in the beginning I only ever saw mention of the subject in more esoteric places or places that discussed what normies tend to call "paranormal". I eventually grew intrigued enough that I sought out certain people, people that proved competence to me in such a range of areas that I was entirely dumbfounded. These kinds of people know more than I know about any one subject, but in such a range of areas that it very seriously doesn't seem like they're real. The biggest hurdle for me in the beginning was taking in everything I was being told. Naturally, I'm extremely skeptical and so it took me a while to really trust what they said or try things out they suggested.

After seeing vague reference to some of the things they appeared to have deep insight with in quite a few places, I began just taking supplements in the beginning, stopped using fluoridated toothpaste and tried in other ways to decrease my exposure. After a while, I started to actually feel differences.They aren't all that noticeable at first, but once you really get in to it, meaningful differences arise.

It's my estimation at least a couple of these people have had information sources of the more secret variety, but I'm not sure how helpful speculating will end up being here, as I'm not sure the source of this info really matters so much as the result of knowing it.

Either way, what do you have to lose with taking a few supplements, switching tooth pastes, taking shorter showers, etc? This really isn't that much of a trade off to potentially have what others tend to vaguely describe as "superpowers".

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dietary flouride causes better calcification of the teeth (only in young people whose bodies are still developing; doesn't do anything for adults really).

I had no idea.

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Source is my dentist, so take it with a grain of salt. Who knows, maybe he's just good with a drill.