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Yet here we are. Fascist ideology rampant. Hitler having passed and espoused sozi policies.

The fact is boy. You don't even know what fascism is. You never bothered to read up on its founding papers

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Communism is state centralized power, you can't oppose state centralized power without seizing said power. Yeah fascism is authoritarian but it must be, that's how all of this works. Libertarianism has already lost, it lost 1865, it lost in 1913, it lost in 1945... hell it's all but dead. Free and open ideologies require prosperity, trust, unity (racial or otherwise) and a strong well raised populace and we have a shortage on all counts.

The south end of the compass can't exist in a centralized technocracy, it can't exist in our Turner Diaries future. It's either submission and the surrender of ego to the machine or the complete abandonment of your ego in order to fight the machine. There is no self in the black pill future, only the collective and those who would suffer and die fighting it. This is why fascism exists, it is the natural predator of communism.

There is a reason that earth fights seemingly infinite space bugs in Starship Troopers, what better avatar for communism than the eusocial insect, nature's perfect commie. You have to make sacrifices to fight an enemy like that. Fascism is never born out of well run prosperous nations, it is born out of formerly prosperous nations when they fail or when they struggle against overwhelming odds. It is a reactionary ideology that only exists because communists exist and must be resisted. The only thing that stops a communist is a fascist.

It's easy to 'Lump the authoritarians together' from a seat high atop the last vestiges of free-ish civilization but it's not that easy from inside the fall as we are all about to see first hand.

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Fascism is also state centralized power.

E g usa today which is also an authoritarian state.

You cannot have command controlled economies without totalitarian rule.

As you are using force to seize peoples stuff. Communism. Or using force to dictate how stuff is used. Fascism.

Fact is the war upon liberty is ancient and fascism granted zero immunity.

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I don't think you are necessarily wrong on any count except maybe:

Fact is the war upon liberty is ancient and fascism granted zero immunity.

Liberty hasn't really existed until modern times. You can call primitive tribalism liberty but really it's just authoritarian patriarchy on a local scale. Liberty was a temporary respite, not at all par for the course and there is no new frontier upon which to start fresh. Call me Socrates and serve up the hemlock because democracy is a sham and the republic is dying.

Regarding the rest my criticism remains the same, it's easy to equate totalitarians from the outside but to a citizen of Wiemar there was a huge difference between the commies and fascists. The two groups spent years fighting each other in the streets and as much as you think you are above all that, the collective will of the suffering masses is going to drag us all down just the same. It's going to crush your high minded ideals and when you hit rock bottom you will have to pick a side.

Nobody wakes up and says "Hey you know what is great, making enormous personal sacrifices because liberty be dumb yo!" What commies and fascists have in common is they both wake up and say "Who or what can I empower, who or what must I fight and what can I sacrafice to put food on the table for my kids?" The difference is that commies are trying to reshape the societal mold to find prosperity they never had and fascists are traditionalists trying to hold the old broken mold together and reclaim prosperity they have known and lost.

It's a compass with fascism and communism to the North East and North West. The North is no stranger to the harshness of winter, on the North side of the compass weak men are made strong. By contrast you have libertarians and anarcho-commies to the South East and South West, they can only exist down south far from the harshness and strife of winter. There the hard men retire, their hard won prosperity giving way to weakness and vice until the next winter comes.

Uncentralized/loose power, while it can compete very well in some arenas (namely economic innovation and industry), is woefully poor on the modern international stage of 4th/5th gen warfare. It has no solutions for the organized pressure (communist) foreign powers can exert upon a country. In a world where we had to centralize and clandestine-ize bureaucracy to fight the cold war/tech war/spy war with the USSR and where we are about to fight another cold war with China that will eliminate personal freedom and broaden the surveillance state, it should be abundantly clear that freedom ends where strife and war begins.

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I don't know what fascism is? That's rich coming from someone who clearly has no idea of the differences between communism and fascism, even a few very basic searches clarify the differences.

You clearly don't belong on this site if you believe that communism and fascism are one in the same.

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What? That statement literally makes no sense.

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Communism and fascism are close cousins as I said. Not the same.

Both are sozi ideologies put into practice.

Fascism just shares the control of the means of production with private proxy owners. In ww2 those were the industrialists.

But here is a single fact. Both fascism and communism mandate state party membership to succeed in running a business

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Can you tell me the founding papers fascism is based on?

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Pretty sure Mussolini canonized the term in his work. You can just read Mein Kampf though too, which is very interesting and some of the ripest forbidden fruit out there. Reading it is like knowing that your parents hate your Uncle vehemently and keep talking about how terrible he was to them, then you go over there a couple decades later and get his side of story and it's like "Woah, they told me you went nuts and ran around pants-less while screaming and then kicked them out of the house but they didn't tell me about the part where they coated your toilet paper in bear mace and had you written out of grandpa's will."