Unbelievably well written. I appreciate that.
I too am not a religious man, born an atheist heathen. But, even I hear my ancient gods calling to me. I am no longer sure that it matters if they are real or not because if they are not they are still the product of my genetics, a beautiful expression of our people. If our gods are the figment of our genetic expression, then lets keep on dreaming and build out our ancient pantheon and use it the way our ancestor did. Rites of passage, rituals of fertility, tests of strength.
There is great beauty outside of us, but even more within us.
Great points about being comfortable, I agree. I do think there is room to move people just little bit here and there, but right now I think I may be just a little too optimistic because I don't fully understand how much movement we can induce.
Thanks for the post.
You are a kindred spirit of mine, cousin Crunchy.
I often wonder why I should worship a god who comes from a land foreign to my ancestors? My ancestors had gods of war, fertility, love, death, harvest, the moon, the wind, other elements, etc.. They were being worshiped thousands of years before the concept of Christ had even been imagined.
You might find my take on Jesus interesting, here's my theory: Jesus of Nazareth was a real man. He was born to his jew parents. He met and was sort of fostered by John the Baptist, and he took the bizarre teachings of John and combined them with Judaism as it was at the time, forming his new philosophy/religion.
He picked up a following, with 12 lieutenants and probably dozens of other underlings; he was likely very charismatic, probably always seemed to have the answer for any given question.
He then led his followers to Jerusalem during a holy festival- I believe his intent was to ignite a revolution, overthrowing the pharisees and Romans. There's this odd passage in the Bible, where Jesus tells his disciples to "Sell your cloaks and use the silver to buy swords" as they were arriving at Jerusalem. In the Bible, the only time any of these swords are ever mentioned again is when Peter drew his and hacked off a legionnaire's ear while Jesus was being arrested. So why do I find this odd? Back then, cloaks were extremely valuable garments: they were your hoodie, your umbrella, your blanket, your bed, your eating arrangement, your bandage- cloaks were vitally important. To sell them to obtain swords indicates that those swords would be used.
So here's my theory: Jesus got his followers to arm themselves and he started rabble rousing. He may have actually flipped the money changer's tables. He was just generally causing a ruckus. The pharisees were terrified by this, revolution was in the air, and their positions of power were being threatened by Jesus and his new religion- so the kike priests started pressuring Pontius Pilate to deal with Jesus ASAP, or else they'd have a bloodbath during their religious festival. Judas (or one or more of Jesus's followers) started getting cold feet, realized "Oh shit, I'm probably on the losing side here" and went to the kikes and offered to bring them Jesus of Nazareth. He then led the Romans to Jesus while he and his followers slept, and the legionaries arrested Jesus. There was likely a small fight.
And then Jesus was publicly tortured and crucified, mocked as the "king of the jews"- he was meant to send a message to all of the pilgrims who were in Jerusalem: "Fuck with the Pharisees, and we'll have the Romans flog you half to death and then crucify you." Jesus's followers, distraught and in mourning, were probably hunted down- several escaped and went on to write parts of what eventually was cobbled into the Bible as we know it today. These people, writing the story of their friend, their leader, who failed, whom they were helpless to rescue... they will embellish his life. They will make him mroe than a man- the son of God Himself. And he didn't actually lose, guys- he came back to life 3 days later. Jesus's favorite whore, Mary Magdeline, saw it with her own eyes.
I think these bits of the Bible were written as a coping mechanism. John, writer of Revelations, was exiled to a shitty island off Greece, epileptic and often malnourished- he writes about all these visions he had about how Jesus was actually alive, went to hell, defeated Satan, and returned- see, this was all part of a convoluted plan to cleanse humanity of original sin by having this poor bastard (Jesus Christ was born out of wedlock with his true Father, making him a bastard....just thought of that now, interesting). Sounds like a sad, defeated man trying to cope with the loss of his friend/mentor. Sounds like the ravings of a man seized by epileptic fits.
I'd be curious to hear what your take on all of that is. Do you agree? Where do you think I could be wrong? I think Jesus was a revolutionary, whom was made into a mythological figure through the mists of time, just like most ancient heroes- there probably was an "Achilles". He probably didn't wrestled the river god Scamander, but he was probably a badass who lost his mind when his cousin was killed in battle with the Trojans. But the mists of time turn him into a legendary demigod... I think the same thing happened with Jesus of Nazareth.
Kindred indeed. You write as much as I do! I swear, I keep on trying to learn to keep things simple but I just don't have that wiring.
Your reading on the history of christianity reads like the most likely scenario to my eyes.
It would also explain why christianity accidentally ended up embedding in it and documenting some of our own ancient pagan ways and rituals as the christian mythology was taken up by pagans that could not read or write.
Your approach to "squinting" at the text and kind of carefully looking at how it would have developed given what we know about the historical context is really interesting. You know what though? The more I think about your take the more I think that your read on that history has a cinematic quality to it. I don't know if it would anger christians if that were turned into a movie or online drama or something, but it's quite compelling isn't it? Grand tragedy of the oppressed escaping destruction only to start anew? You might want to see if you can make something around that.
I am saddened that we have lost who knows many ancient white myths and religious beleifs as our people did not write anything down (that we know of anyway). But, on the other hand, just like the ancient Celts never disappeared as they are among us all throughout Europe, neither did the ancient precursors to those myths ... us.
I have a bunch of visuals and beginnings for new white mythology kinda running around in my head, and the general idea is that it doesn't matter if we keep on loosing our mythologies. We carry them in our dna and as long as we live and write we can rebuild them anew. Our gods never dissapeared, they are within us, so to speak. Perhaps I will manage to get something done with that and contribute to Tokeins work, but for my own tribe. As you probably know, Tolkein wrote his work to try and bring to life mythologies lost as a result of viking / norman conquests of the Celtic lands, which is to say, that when you are reading Tolkein you aren't reading fantasy you are reading the religious writings of the Celts.
The way we going to kick the jewish and other invaders from our lands is by building strong bridges between our people. One of the key tools that will bind us are the new mythologies and rituals that we need to build in order for our people to get meaning, purpose and direction from US and not our enemies.
What I am getting at is, you read on christianity is probably way more important than you might think and you may be able to cash in on that if you can develop some sort of media product around it. And your general sensibility of how to read mythology, how it is generated by human nervous systems in context of history and survival could be a very useful tool in building out our peoples mythos as well.
Who knew Poal could become this useful?
Who knew Poal could become this useful?
Cousin, I am only here because Voat got nuked on Christmas. I went by a different username over there. The quality of discussion/content on Poal isn't even close to comparable than what we had with Voat.
After 6 months of lurking/using poal, I've decided that Poal is a feminized version of Voat.
And I can type as fast as the top percentile of people on earth, and my mind races (it's actually a problem for me, anxiety); so when I put pen to paper or my fingers to a keyboard, before I know it, there are paragraphs of my thoughts vomited onto the page. It's a bit of a curse, especially on a place like poal where the typical comment length is about 5 words... and they usually aren't even funny.
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