The sooner Ivermectin is sold over the counter the sooner covid will be out of our lives

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I reasearched the dosing carefully including the livestock medication. It is the same stuff. I was going to reply to @frontier but it seems he has me blocked, so you could poke him for me. You can get it off amazon https://www.amazon.com/ivermectin-horses/s?k=ivermectin+for+horses

As @Iheartcatfood says, it is dosed by the pound, and the Durvet applicator allows you to estimate doses to the nearest 50 lb increment per your bodyweight. So many would be taking a 150 lb dose or 200 lb dose. Each notch on the plunger will measure 50 lbs worth of medicine or 4.5 mg (which is 200 micrograms / kg in doctor speak ). In other words, it’s easy to measure doses to the nearest 4.5 mg. This is similar to the human medication which come in 3 or 6 mg pills.

It will stay good for a year or two at least, probably longer. It will also work for other flu and cold viruses. If you come down with early stage covid, I would take a dose a day for 3 to 5 days. You could do longer than 5 days or do a dose every 12 hrs if you were really sick.

Is safe on seniors. Drug interactions are generally mild and can be ignored at ~ 1 dose of ivm/day.

Heres a protocol that has recommendations for ivm as well as a list of drug interactions. https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/FLCCC-Protocols-–-A-Guide-to-the-Management-of-COVID-19.pdf Interactions on the “green list” are basically never observed at these doses. I dont know that theyve ever been observed at all. No human has ever died from an IVM overdose in 50 years according to the literature. So you can pretty much ignore potential interactions like atorvastatin or amplodopine if you use common sense.

If you took more than 10 doses in a short period of time or say, a dose a day for more than 10 days, the drug could build up. Adverse side effects at these levels are neurological. Vision changes and balance issues. People that have overdosed like this make a full recovery. But its not safe to use long term in those doses.

Some doctors are recommending ivm as a covid prophylactic in the range of 1 to 2 doses a month for safe long term use. My dad did 4.5 mg / weekly for 5 months until he got the vax. I think it is safer than the vaccine personally.

Here’s a guy that talks about using a similar product for scabies https://www.maximpulse.com/permethrin/ivermectin-horse-paste-for-scabies.html

Not safe for pregnant women, or at least may not be safe. Tastes like crap. Causes mild stomach irritation.

I reasearched the dosing carefully including the livestock medication. *It is the same stuff*. I was going to reply to @frontier but it seems he has me blocked, so you could poke him for me. You can get it off amazon https://www.amazon.com/ivermectin-horses/s?k=ivermectin+for+horses As @Iheartcatfood says, it is dosed by the pound, and the Durvet applicator allows you to estimate doses to the nearest 50 lb increment per your bodyweight. So many would be taking a 150 lb dose or 200 lb dose. Each notch on the plunger will measure 50 lbs worth of medicine or 4.5 mg (which is 200 micrograms / kg in doctor speak ). In other words, it’s easy to measure doses to the nearest 4.5 mg. This is similar to the human medication which come in 3 or 6 mg pills. It will stay good for a year or two at least, probably longer. It will also work for other flu and cold viruses. If you come down with early stage covid, I would take a dose a day for 3 to 5 days. You could do longer than 5 days or do a dose every 12 hrs if you were really sick. Is safe on seniors. Drug interactions are generally mild and can be ignored at ~ 1 dose of ivm/day. Heres a protocol that has recommendations for ivm as well as a list of drug interactions. https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/FLCCC-Protocols-–-A-Guide-to-the-Management-of-COVID-19.pdf Interactions on the “green list” are basically never observed at these doses. I dont know that theyve ever been observed at all. No human has ever died from an IVM overdose in 50 years according to the literature. So you can pretty much ignore potential interactions like atorvastatin or amplodopine if you use common sense. If you took more than 10 doses in a short period of time or say, a dose a day for more than 10 days, the drug could build up. Adverse side effects at these levels are neurological. Vision changes and balance issues. People that have overdosed like this make a full recovery. But its not safe to use long term in those doses. Some doctors are recommending ivm as a covid prophylactic in the range of 1 to 2 doses a month for safe long term use. My dad did 4.5 mg / weekly for 5 months until he got the vax. I think it is safer than the vaccine personally. Here’s a guy that talks about using a similar product for scabies https://www.maximpulse.com/permethrin/ivermectin-horse-paste-for-scabies.html Not safe for pregnant women, or at least may not be safe. Tastes like crap. Causes mild stomach irritation.

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Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure why I had you blocked. I'll probably go ahead and grab some just in case. I doubt I'll use it ahead of time. Should I also try to find an HQL source as well just in case?

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I'm not sure why I had you blocked

Probably because Im a bitch.

Its not a bad idea to get HCQ. You could try this place though I haven’t used them. https://farmaciasdelnino.mx/eng/items/?kw=Plaquenil

Other drugs that will kill the virus: Azithromycin (or erythromycin, clarithromycin) and doxycycline (or other tetracylines). These drugs including HCQ are broad spectrum antivirals so they will probably work on the next pandemic they loose on use as well. Or a cold or flu.

You should be able to use any of them with ivermectin.

The trouble with HCQ is that it builds up in your tissues and can cause a heart arrythmia (long qt). It takes more than a month for your body to get rid of the drug. So you can only give it in high doses for abt a week. For an otherwise healthy person, about 4000 mg total is about what they will give for malaria over a week (1400 mg day 1; 600 mg days 2 thru 5, I think). For the elderly, they give alot less— around 2400 mg total (800 mg day 1; 400 mg days 2 thru 5). Even then it may be too much for people with kidney dysfunction and or heart disease (which is a lot of old people.) People with low magnesium may also be susceptible. There is just not a huge safety margin with HCQ especially combine with other drugs that cause long qt, like azithromycin. So just be careful, especially with the older folks. Watch out for the cumulative dose.

Some high absorption magnesium might not be a bad idea to take especially if you are taking HCQ because it offsets the long qt issue a little. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084MJP7ZD/

If you look at the FLCCC pdf I linked, you will see that antivirals a super effective if you get them soon after symptoms or even pre-symptom exposure. By the second week of symptoms , you are basically mitigating the inflammation from all the viruses you failed to kill in the first week. At that point you need steroids and blood thinners, antivirals will be of limited use. But I feel pretty confident that you can avoid that scenario if you take ivermectin on day one. Ivermectin is a blood thinner, so if you are going to take it with aspirin, be somewhat conservative with the aspirin.

I would add to that some high dose vitamins C D and zinc— for instance 3 or 4 of these a day: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08D61CV4X/

Or like 8 of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Q3SWL3X/

Rule of thumb: around 5 to 10 times the normal daily doses for these 3 vitamins if you have covid or flu. Try to spread them out over the day to avoid GI issues.

You could add a flavanoid supplement like quercetin, green tea extract, or skullcap. They are sort of like natural HCQ. The molecules are similar and they seem to have broad antiviral activity. That pdf recommends quercetin.

You could also drink a lot of name brand tonic water, like Schweppes, Canada Dry, Seagrams. A liter has ~60 or 70 mg quinine base. 3 to 6 liters a day during that early viral phase might make a difference. Its very similar to hydroxychloroquine. It doesn’t stay in your system as long but it could cause similar problems at higher doses. 6 liters is a fairly low dose though and I doubt to many people would be able to stand drinking more than that. Get the diet!

There is also this tonic concentrate which probably has ~5x the quinine as regular tonic but I would be very cautious as I dont feel as confident about the q content. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0892R5N16/ Like HCQ, the safety margin is not wide. Also many people are allergic to quinine, ask me how I know. Lol. Dont use quinine and HCQ together obviously or you will overdose.

Finally get yourself some Pepsid/ famotidine. It will reduce lung inflamation. You could take between 4 to 12 pepsid a day (20 mg ea.)

So that is the full dump ( not really, Im restraining myself). Yes I sperged out on covid treatments. Hope I gave you a few breadcrumbs. Obviously don’t do everything, just choose a few things here. My core recommends are IVM, C, D and zinc megadosing, pepsid.

Edit: pepsid may interfere with some antivirals but not the ones I listed

>I'm not sure why I had you blocked Probably because Im a bitch. Its not a bad idea to get HCQ. You could try this place though I haven’t used them. https://farmaciasdelnino.mx/eng/items/?kw=Plaquenil Other drugs that will kill the virus: Azithromycin (or erythromycin, clarithromycin) and doxycycline (or other tetracylines). These drugs including HCQ are broad spectrum antivirals so they will probably work on the next pandemic they loose on use as well. Or a cold or flu. You should be able to use any of them with ivermectin. The trouble with HCQ is that it builds up in your tissues and can cause a heart arrythmia (long qt). It takes more than a month for your body to get rid of the drug. So you can only give it in high doses for abt a week. For an otherwise healthy person, about 4000 mg total is about what they will give for malaria over a week (1400 mg day 1; 600 mg days 2 thru 5, I think). For the elderly, they give alot less— around 2400 mg total (800 mg day 1; 400 mg days 2 thru 5). Even then it may be too much for people with kidney dysfunction and or heart disease (which is a lot of old people.) People with low magnesium may also be susceptible. There is just not a huge safety margin with HCQ especially combine with other drugs that cause long qt, like azithromycin. So just be careful, especially with the older folks. Watch out for the cumulative dose. Some *high absorption* magnesium might not be a bad idea to take especially if you are taking HCQ because it offsets the long qt issue a little. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084MJP7ZD/ If you look at the FLCCC pdf I linked, you will see that antivirals a super effective if you get them soon after symptoms or even pre-symptom exposure. By the second week of symptoms , you are basically mitigating the inflammation from all the viruses you failed to kill in the first week. At that point you need steroids and blood thinners, antivirals will be of limited use. But I feel pretty confident that you can avoid that scenario if you take ivermectin on day one. Ivermectin is a blood thinner, so if you are going to take it with aspirin, be somewhat conservative with the aspirin. I would add to that some high dose vitamins C D and zinc— for instance 3 or 4 of these a day: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08D61CV4X/ Or like 8 of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Q3SWL3X/ Rule of thumb: around 5 to 10 times the normal daily doses for these 3 vitamins if you have covid or flu. Try to spread them out over the day to avoid GI issues. You could add a flavanoid supplement like quercetin, green tea extract, or skullcap. They are sort of like natural HCQ. The molecules are similar and they seem to have broad antiviral activity. That pdf recommends quercetin. You could also drink a lot of name brand tonic water, like Schweppes, Canada Dry, Seagrams. A liter has ~60 or 70 mg quinine *base*. 3 to 6 liters a day during that early viral phase might make a difference. Its very similar to hydroxychloroquine. It doesn’t stay in your system as long but it could cause similar problems at higher doses. 6 liters is a fairly low dose though and I doubt to many people would be able to stand drinking more than that. Get the diet! There is also this tonic concentrate which probably has ~5x the quinine as regular tonic but I would be very cautious as I dont feel as confident about the q content. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0892R5N16/ Like HCQ, the safety margin is not wide. Also many people are allergic to quinine, ask me how I know. Lol. Dont use quinine and HCQ together obviously or you will overdose. Finally get yourself some Pepsid/ famotidine. It will reduce lung inflamation. You could take between 4 to 12 pepsid a day (20 mg ea.) So that is the full dump ( not really, Im restraining myself). Yes I sperged out on covid treatments. Hope I gave you a few breadcrumbs. Obviously don’t do *everything*, just choose a few things here. My core recommends are IVM, C, D and zinc megadosing, pepsid. Edit: pepsid may interfere with some antivirals but not the ones I listed

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Thanks a ton. That's a lot of information. I'll probably stick with your core. So you are taking the 4x C D Zinc all the time even without covid? That HQL costs a lot more than I thought given those dosages.

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