That's an interesting theory. Frankly, I don't know. ITP would be a good indicator, although if this is what's happening, my guess would be that the mRNA is coming already packaged in the ER from the parent megakaryocyte cells. Now, these would be a really interesting target. The Johns Hopkins study posted below mentions one doctor's theory that lung damage induced by the virus is responsible for the migration of the megakaryocytes to the lungs, and from there to the brain. But if any mRNAs associated with the vaccine are being delivered to the ER of these parent cells, you could wind up finding functional polysomes in the platelet daughters, and if they are migrating like this, it would be systemic. If the platelets are then expressing the spike protein on their own surfaces, you could have a problem.
One of the early alarmists about these vaccines was a D.O. who pointed out the immunopathological changes to the lungs of mice due to the vaccine. I cannot recall what vaccine was used. If the theory is true that the lung damage is responsible for the megakaryocyte migration, it's not certain they would have anticipated this necessarily. If we are looking for malicious intent here, we could stop with the lungs or something, and say this is just a situation where the 'fire is spreading'. But again, if you wanted to cause a systemic autoimmune process to occur, the platelets are a pretty interesting target.
I've read a few reports, however, that the virus itself was supposed to have also been causing ITP irrespective of the vaccine. So this could also just be a situation where the vaccines are operating in a way to amplify an immune-mediated side-effect of the virus they're supposed to be helping against. In other words, the very immune response the vaccines are meant to produce is proving to be dangerous. That fits perfectly well with what was found in the mice lungs.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167488913000268
When you say ITP do you mean idiopathic or immune thrombocytopenia? Maybe it doesnt matter.
I mean the vaccine that seems to be getting the most flack over clotting is the AZ vax which isnt even an mRNA vax. Its viral vector is adenovirus right? The commenter on the article I cited mentions infection of platelets from rna viruses— adenovirus doesnt really fit the profile.
But the idea that the RNA vaxes are delivering the payload inside the platelets or megakaryocytes or both, resulting in an immune attack on platelets is really disturbing. You think they might have designed it that way. I just think its a fuck up. You should see how many women are complaining about bad periods after this jab on social media!
It seems like they can deliver an mRNA package directly in to the platelet based on this:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-36910-2/
So you are saying that if the infiltrated megakaryocyte goes roaming to the lungs or brain and produces some spike proteins there, that it could promote alot of inflammation?
I cant recall if I pointed out to you that the only trad inactivated coronavirus vaccines are the two chinese ones and an indian one. I saw an argument that said that getting an immunity to the full virus was better than getting an immunity to a spike protein because the spike protein is more likely to mutate rendering the immunity ineffective. If they’re already whining about variants evading immunized people why use the RNA vax or viral vectors? Its like theyre not even trying to be good liars.
Disclosure— the aged progenitor has already had one jab which went okay. After reading about how high the effectiveness is after one jab, and the second jab only conferring a few extra percentage points of prevention, I think fuck this, they’re just trying to sell 2x the jabs— I tell him number 2 has minimal additional benefit and a greatly increased risk. He doesnt want to hear it. Hes due for the second shot in a few days. He just keeps yapping about british variants or something. He just wants needles in his arm and spike proteins in his platelets. I keep telling myself this whole covid thing is an IQ test.
>When you say ITP do you mean idiopathic or immune thrombocytopenia?
Immune
>which isnt even an mRNA vax
Yes, I continue to neglect that. I am a retard.
>It seems like they can deliver an mRNA package directly in to the platelet based on this
Wow. I had not seen this. Yeah, that's pretty much exactly it. The thing with this technology is there aren't many places lipid nanoparticles can't go if they are long-lived enough. It's pretty scary.
>So you are saying that if the infiltrated megakaryocyte goes roaming to the lungs or brain and produces some spike proteins there, that it could promote alot of inflammation?
Yep. And before I'd read that article you just posted, I was thinking that the megakaryocytes were the ones seeding their daughters (platelets) with the mRNA for the spike protein. But, maybe it's just being delivered directly to platelets by the vax.
>If they’re already whining about variants evading immunized people why use the RNA vax or viral vectors?
I would say because there aren't any variants. They're going to need good public-facing reasons why the vaccines are behaving in the body like a worse form of the virus. That reason could only be, more and worse viruses. As I see it, the vaccine's mechanism is just a way to make your body behave like it has a virus when it doesn't require having a virus. Obviously I mean this in a kind of figurative sense, it's not as if these effects are going to propagate like you'd just been infected with a virus. The incrementalism is at least one way you'll 'know' the vax wasn't what made you sick, right?
>I keep telling myself this whole covid thing is an IQ test
Yes, most of the 55+ members of my family have gotten both jabs, and were eager to. I agree with your logic about the marginal benefit of the second. They continue to point out to me: "Look? See? I got both shots, and I'm fine", as if the only possibility for negative consequences is in dropping dead within 5 minutes of the shot. I keep saying, if something is going to happen, give it 6 months to a year. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and that's good. But I also warn them, if there are problems, they're going to be blaming it on a new virus variant (in reality, I think they are just turning your own body into the virus).
It's so archetypally similar in form to the Jew that I can't ignore it, even though that's way outside what empirical now. To go into a body and make some parts of is tissues seem like a virus to the other parts, dividing the body and setting 'fires' from the response.
Could you catch any of these deseases from someone who has them?
No, not unless they were actually manufacturing viruses. These things I mentioned aren't contagious.
The purpose of the vaccine is to make your body behave like it has one, without actually having one. On this, Helena disagrees with me, and it is a controversial statement.
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