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But there are only like 10,000 US influenza deaths a year. There are 400,000 covid deaths in the last 12 months. That would only account for 2.5 percent of covid deaths

2.5%

Where are the other 97.5% of covid deaths coming from? The US death count in 2020 was about 400,000 people higher than it was in 2019. Around 17% higher than the previous year. Where did those extra deaths come from?

Oh hey I know, covid

[–] 8 pts

No.

The methodology for counting a patient as a COVID death does not include verifying that COVID was a contributing factor towards their death. The patient need only test positive for COVID at any point before their death in order to be counted as a COVID death. This is why the list of comorbidities include things like Alzheimer's, renal failure, diabetes, falls, etc...

You're a fool if you think these stats are accurate

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That is true for influenza deaths too. There are two codes, one for confirmed flu and one for unconfirmed suspected flu. But anyone who wants to query the data base themselves can exclude the “suspected “ code and see only confirmed covid cases. You can query “confirmed covid deaths” separately if you dont like the fact they are including suspected cases. Do you understand that?

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The methodology for counting a patient as a COVID death does not include verifying that COVID was a contributing factor towards their death.

Not true.US Doctors and coroners fill out death certificates with immediate and underlying cause of death on page one and other existing conditions on page two. If covid is not believed to be an cause of death it is not listed as one.

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Not in my hospital. We were instructed to list ALL covid positive as Covid death. Even a special spot on the form provided by the govt and CDC. imDID my best to accidentally leave it uchecked, but as much mullah as we were getting, I am sure several more were just checked anyway.

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Flu deaths have never been counted in the way Covid deaths are. They are estimated through excess deaths, not if there was positive test in the last 28 days (especially not using PCR), and not because there were flulike symptoms so it was counted anyway.

If we use the same technique to count Covid as the flu, then it was just a normal flu year, with strong spikes list April and perhaps this January, but no excess overall. A Johns Hopkins researcher came to a similar conclusion, and the work was retracted because it was determined to be dangerous and not politically correct by people who want you to be afraid.

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You are wrong. There are recorded actually flu deaths attest to by a doctor at time of death on a death certifiacate. There are separate codes for confirmed flu and suspected flu. These are rolled up in to a number that is tallied by the cdc and is on their website. Its around 10 or 15 thousand every year.

Then there is estimated flu deaths which is a bullshit number they propagate to goad people in to taking the vaccine. It uses alot of abusive statistical methods and assumptions to inflate a number that we already have. We have the real #of flu deaths every year.

They promote some bullshit “flu burden estimate” which is 5 times higher than the real recorded number. Google “how the CDC estimates influenza burden “ or some shit like that. Read it, its bull shit. We know the actual number of flu deaths because doctors tell us. It is probably accurate to within 5 or 10 % of real life.

What is not comparable is number of flu cases to number of covid cases because

  1. Actual flu cases are underestimated. The cdc doesnt record every time you get the flu

  2. Actual covid cases are overestimated because pcr is testing positive for some people that have trace amounts of sars cov 2 but not an actual infection.

This compromises other metrics like case fatality rate which is the ratio of deaths/cases— those number should not be compared between flu and covid because of inconsistent measurement of data.

I read the johns hopkins article— Briand was the analyst and she used several misleading staistics which were further distorted by the atuhor of the newsletter. There were 3 or 4 statistically naughty things she did. But the one you are talking about is this:

She argued that because of normal variations in deaths from week to week over the last several years— i.e. a frequency graph of death counts will have a roughly bell shaped curve— that weeks during the epidemic that had high number of deaths should be interpreted as normal variations, a normal distribution, because weeks that have 30 or 40% increased deaths over the average weekly deaths are predicted to occur periodically in a normal distribution.

But this is disingenuous. We had deaths between 10% and 40% over the previous average weekly death number almost every week for 46 weeks straight! That is not normal variation. That is what we call a signal change. It cant be chalked off to the random “noise” of variation, which is what she was arguing, flimflam.

See the other comment Im about to respond to which is quoting her claim about 2% increases which is also bullshit.

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WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG!

There are between 50 and 80 thousand US flu deaths every year, SWEETIE-BUNS.

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My silly little homo heidelbergensis,

CDC records number of deaths a year from flu and its around 10,000 or 15000 as recorded on death certificates by doctors.

Then they propagate a fake number called annual flu burden that uses shifty statistics and assumptions to inflate flu numbers, the justification being somehow flu deaths are 5x higher than actually recorded so take your flu shot goy.

You can read about it here, they explain exactly how they are lying to you. Read it, seriously its a good laugh. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/how-cdc-estimates.htm

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So, they would lie to get goys to take a flu shot, but not a untested covid shot? MAKE ME A GODDAM SAMBITCH!

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is a breakdown of the Deaths in the US by Age Group. I plotted this myself from the data provided by the CDC.

Before you say 400,000 people have died!!!, maybe take a moment to reflect that age might play an issue in that too and not just a deadly virus.

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well they were old they would have died anyway.

That is a fallacious argument. I cant go around shooting people because they are probably going to die within the next 5 or 10 years,

The latest US death count from CDC for 2020 is 3.4 million dead

That is a 19% increase from the previous year. Over the previous 5 years there was an average 1.24% increase in total US deaths all causes.

2020: 3,403,979

2019: 2,845,957

2018: 2,832,001

2017: 2,804,481

2016: 2,728,601

2015: 2,701,797

2014: 2,675,414

That is a massive increase in the death rate. And covid didnt even start killing people until April. That increase represesnts 400,000 people that would have died much later.

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Covid is 100% fake. It has never been isolated and identified in the real world. Not even the CDC has a sample of covid - https://www.instagram.com/tv/CMC7WA0gOwzBPgmIRVjnxQuN9MnU6GFZft_g1U0/?igshid=1ldcz3ugd6vua

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Its been sequenced thousands of times. Its been photographed through an electron microscope hundreds of times. Its been cultured in media. This is silly. Do you believe influenza a is real? Covid has been shown to exist as well as a virus like influenza.