thanks for doing due dilligence, I could not find my original bookmark on this but I do remember reading an article that suggested that Roundup was effectively AOK'ed within the past year or so. here's an article I found how that doesn't describe the Roundup issue but does show how they will willy nilly change the definition of 'certified organic' whenever convenient: https://www.organicauthority.com/energetic-health/monsantos-gmo-roundup-ready-sugar-beets-get-final-usda-approval if/when I find that bookmark I will try to rmber and DM you the link.