yep they still have the same perspective that includes some arrogance with willful ignorance. they will never realize they are part of the reason why they keep screwing themselves. met quite a few in prescott arizona over 15-16 years. simply would not argue, always right, complete in the moment orientation; no future orientation or willingness to argue or support their claims. got a bureacrat roomate like that now. not prepared in any manner and starts yelling when i argue. millions like that and IMO ultimately dangerous for any critical thinking decent person