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"Deaths involving pneumonia, influenza, OR covid."

In otherwords, you proved my point. You don't know, you have nothing, and the CDC working with the media, has effectively sold these as covid deaths.

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No dumdum, the column next to that : deaths involving influenza

That is all deaths in which influenza is one of the causes of death.

Its got a specific death code so you can look it up every year. It doesnt change substantially.

If you checked the link I gave you abou how they estimate influenza “death burden” it will be obvious that that is a fake number and they have actual influenza deaths certified by doctors. Which was about 9000 for 2020

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As Ive said the cdc website explains why they are spreading an inflated estimate instead of actual recoded influenza deaths Which have disease codes listed here. https://wwwn.cdc.gov/eworld/Appendix/ICDCodes#FLUPNEUM

Confirmed influenza a or b is “j10” unconfirmed is “j11”, viral pneumonia is a different code, adenovirus “cold” is also a different code.

These are the bullshit explanations they give for NOT REPORTING ACTUAL FLU NUMBERS. This is how they use STATISTICAL FUCKERY to trick you goy. Look at the REAL numbers reported by doctors. They are not perfectly reliable but they are harder to corrupt.

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Our essential disagreement is that you believe covid is deadly and believe the numbers are real, but believe the flu numbers are inflated. While I think the covid numbers are bullshit, but the flu numbers are real.

I'm gonna go with mine, considering the flu deaths were well understood and not an issue prior. Likewise it explains why flu deaths dropped and 'covid' deaths increased.

Yours is basically a semantic issue thats just muddying the waters and could very well be used to push "covid is real but flu isnt! We had flu shots for a flu that wasnt real or actually deadly, so why is everyone against vaccinations for a disease that is?"

No. It's not deadly. And you're either deluded or a liar.