>>Well, so China has free enterprise. Businesses are privately owned. this is true but that is until the party says no more. right now the system is working for them because the western banking cartel is supplying credit and know how to the communists there but once the party sniff any hints of rebellion by the new middle class they will not hesitate to close their doors again. >>I guess China has a nominal 1 party state instead of a nominal 2 party state that's actually a 1 party state. The more I try to nail down differences the more I'm struggling to find them. again, mostly true but we still have some freedoms left. the chinese citizen dont have access to weaponry, you still legally are able to do so here in the states though that door may be closing soon you can still be able to move freely within the federal states. chinese doesnt enjoy much of this. the CCP can order the chinese to do anything and they HAVE TO OBEY we are not at this point right now. there are still differences like that though you are correct the lines are blurring with each passing day and think this is by design since our future will be modeled after the chinese model with social credit and hardcore party rule for all. >>I think in the US our rights are better preserved, for sure. I own guns. I can say whatever I want on the Internet without the government coming to get me so far, and there's no Great Firewall blocking poal from my computer. ditto. exactly my point there are people here that say that they dont mind authoritarian rule as long is the right kind. people wishing this have NO FUCKING IDEA what is to live under a dictatorship. i'm amazed that people that have enjoyed 200 plus years of republican government would trade it with a jackboot in to their heads... oh i know the fantasy, they think that they will somehow either rule in it or be spared by it or some shit shhh... between you and i, it doesnt work that way, ever!