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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/01/george-floyd-independent-autopsy-findings-released-monday/5307185002/ and the archived - https://archive.vn/SMmkY

Dr. Michael Baden, that's sounds familiar...oh, he did the Epstein autopsy. This should be nice and balanced and calming...

"What we found is consistent with what people saw," Baden said. "There is no other health issue that could cause or contribute to the death. Police have this false impression that if you can talk, you can breathe. That’s not true."

No, the police are right. If you can talk, you are breathing. That's kind of a requirement for the vocal cords to work. The louder you can talk, the better your breathing is.

"For George Floyd, the ambulance was his hearse," Crump said. "Beyond question, he would be alive today if not for the pressure applied to his neck by fired officer Derek Chauvin and the strain on his body from two additional officers kneeling on him. Mr. Floyd’s death was a homicide by officers who taunted him while holding him down for more than eight minutes. And the officer who stood by doing nothing was a physical blue shield – a living symbol of the code of silence."

That seems awfully aggressive, more aggressive than it needs to be.

“Yes, those men need to be labeled as murderers. But what about every single life they took before this?” asked Strong, who lives in an apartment overlooking where Floyd died. “The system doesn’t work."

I've only heard Chauvin's name, have the other names and their police records been released? I doubt they'd let them be on the force or patrol if they weren't justifiable killings.

She said she didn’t immediately realize Floyd died in police custody outside her window because she’s so accustomed to the sirens and yelling and heavy police presence across Minneapolis.

“All of that chaos is the soundtrack to the city,” Strong said. “And we don’t want that to be our norm anymore.”

The only way to fix their norm is to raise standards. However, for the last 60 years, we've been told as a population that having standards isn't acceptable because not everyone can meet those standards. What actually happens is they chimp out, standards get lowered, they chimp out again, standards get lowered again. Now the standards are so low that if they don't chimp out they aren't black. The standards are so low that any slight manipulation of a story sets them off.

So what else happened? If I'm a shop owner, I'm not calling the cops for a fake $20. I'll just refuse service. Why did it take a week for international protests to start? Why did those start, seemingly, after POTUS announced naming antifa terrorists? Why are these things always following the same damn script?

I'm not surprised the "independent autopsy" found the opposite, I was expecting it. Again, they are using the same damn script.

sigh...Where to begin? https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/01/george-floyd-independent-autopsy-findings-released-monday/5307185002/ and the archived - https://archive.vn/SMmkY Dr. Michael Baden, that's sounds familiar...oh, he did the Epstein autopsy. This should be nice and balanced and calming... >"What we found is consistent with what people saw," Baden said. "There is no other health issue that could cause or contribute to the death. Police have this false impression that if you can talk, you can breathe. That’s not true." No, the police are right. If you can talk, you are breathing. That's kind of a requirement for the vocal cords to work. The louder you can talk, the better your breathing is. >"For George Floyd, the ambulance was his hearse," Crump said. "Beyond question, he would be alive today if not for the pressure applied to his neck by fired officer Derek Chauvin and the strain on his body from two additional officers kneeling on him. Mr. Floyd’s death was a homicide by officers who taunted him while holding him down for more than eight minutes. And the officer who stood by doing nothing was a physical blue shield – a living symbol of the code of silence." That seems awfully aggressive, more aggressive than it needs to be. >“Yes, those men need to be labeled as murderers. But what about every single life they took before this?” asked Strong, who lives in an apartment overlooking where Floyd died. “The system doesn’t work." I've only heard Chauvin's name, have the other names and their police records been released? I doubt they'd let them be on the force or patrol if they weren't justifiable killings. >She said she didn’t immediately realize Floyd died in police custody outside her window because she’s so accustomed to the sirens and yelling and heavy police presence across Minneapolis. >“All of that chaos is the soundtrack to the city,” Strong said. “And we don’t want that to be our norm anymore.” The only way to fix their norm is to raise standards. However, for the last 60 years, we've been told as a population that having standards isn't acceptable because not everyone can meet those standards. What actually happens is they chimp out, standards get lowered, they chimp out again, standards get lowered again. Now the standards are so low that if they don't chimp out they aren't black. The standards are so low that any slight manipulation of a story sets them off. So what else happened? If I'm a shop owner, I'm not calling the cops for a fake $20. I'll just refuse service. Why did it take a week for international protests to start? Why did those start, seemingly, after POTUS announced naming antifa terrorists? Why are these things always following the same damn script? I'm not surprised the "independent autopsy" found the opposite, I was expecting it. Again, they are using the same damn script.

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>If you can talk, you are breathing. That's kind of a requirement for the vocal cords to work.

I always like to try this stuff out for myself, just to see. If I expel all the air from my lungs, I can actually make myself say "I can't breath!" I draped my torso, placing the most weight on my diaphragm, over the edge of my couch and tried again. Sure enough, success again - but I noticed that there is an involuntary, inspiratory breath that I was taking while carrying out these exercises. I wouldn't mind repeating this trial again after someone knocked the wind out of me, because in that case, I'm sure I wouldn't be able to talk. It's happened before and takes me a few minutes to recover. So if the big nigger was talking for 6-ish of those 8 minutes and 46 seconds I've heard so much about, he died of a heart attack.

Baden really is a (((celebrity))) forensic analyst; appeal to authority.

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I had the wind knocked out of me playing football with friends. All I could do was lay there on my back for a few minutes gasping.

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Apparently its the lack of blood to the brain, not air to the lungs that kills. Also one jugular conduits blood 'in' the other 'out' so only one needs to be closed.

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He would have blacked out before 8 minutes. Go learn some chokeholds.

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2 doughnut munchers sitting on a persons back is not a choke hold. That,'Pressure on cartoid artery impeding blood flow to the brain' thing is much more 'Bruce Lee', which is where i learned choke holds:)

https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/george-floyd-cause-of-death-autopsy/

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Again, you need to go learn how chokeholds work. If you cut the blood flow through the carotid arteries, the person will be passed out in seconds. He would not have been calling out "I can't breathe" for 8 minutes. If they had him in an actual chokehold, he would have died a gasping death and it would have happened in less than 5 minutes.