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Maybe if they want to appear to be peaceful human beings how about acting like peaceful human beings. Stop the wholesale slaughter, oppression and power grabs. Willing to go against their religeous beliefs and work with jews to make movies to tell lies rather than do the right thing. If they dont want to be called goat fuckers then stop fucking goats.

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Radicals will win

Extremists as they like to call them. The so called moderates will get pwned by radicals on the long run when it comes to islam, because that's what things are, how things are when it comes to it.

Their prophet wasn't exactly a "moderate", to begin with, as we all know

And it doesn't stop there https://www.ummah.com/forum/forum/islam/general-islamic-topics/74424-the-best-three-generations

>The Prophet Muhammad (SAW) said in a famous hadeeth narrated by 'Imraan bin Husayn (RA):

>إن خيركم قرني ثم الذين يلونهم ثم الذين يلونهم ثم الذين يلونهم

>"Verily the best among you (to follow) is my generation (the Messenger Muhammad (SAW) and his Companions (RA)), then those who follow, and then those who follow them…" (Saheeh Muslim, Book: the Virtues of the Sahaabah, chapter 52 hadeeth #2535)

You get the idea?

Basically, the further down the line the muslim generation, the worst they get, and it's their prophet saying so...

So you're agoing to tell a 17 century muslim, or rather one observing the 17th century fashioned islam, that he is wrong? That you, the corporato-metropolitan "moderate" "muslim", are the model now? LOL... "Who the hell do you think you are, infidel..."

It's not just that "radicals" will win, they just can't lose

I mean a moderate muslim is a bad muslim according to islam, it's one that partially follows what the book says... https://www.shariahfinancewatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/48791576.jpg that's what a "moderate" is. He tolerates gambling in his vincinity, alcohol and pork merchants, needless to mention soft porn, homosex etc

A "full muslim", attacks those things, is against the very existence of those things

...

And a "radical"/"extremist" muslim is a good muslim according to islam, its one that strictly follows what the book says

And a moderate is a good muslim for the west, and the radical is a bad one...

And you're going to tell the radical with his 17th century version of islam that he's the fake one?

Good luck with that http://i.dawn.com/primary/2014/10/5448dc3a31d9b.jpg

https://www.dawn.com/news/1139847

Till about the late 1960s, movements associated with rightest aspects of Political Islam were largely intellectual pursuits with limited political influence.

They were seen with suspicion, even by those movements and groups that adopted the main aspects of Political Islam and fused them with varied leftist ideologies.

Thus one can also suggest that during the Cold War era (1949-90), the central theological and political tussle in most Muslim countries was not exactly between ‘Islamists’ and secularists, or between religious political groups and communists; the main conflict was between the rightest expressions of Political Islam and its leftist versions.

The rightist side produced tendencies such as ‘Islamic Fundamentalism,’ ‘Islamism’ and ‘Neo-Fundamentalism,’ while the leftist sides came up with ‘Islamic Socialism,’ ‘Ba’ath Socialism’ and ‘Arab Nationalism’/‘Arab Socialism’. Balanced at the centre was Muslim Nationalism.

During the Cold War, the rightest expressions of Political Islam were backed and supported by Western powers and oil-rich Arab monarchies, mainly due to the fact that the leftist sides of Political Islam had largely moved into what (during the Cold War) was called the ‘Soviet camp.’

The rightist sides were severely repressed by Muslim regimes operating from the left flanks of Political Islam, but it is also true that the right-wing of Political Islam had by and large failed to attract any worthwhile mass support.

However, things in this respect began to change from early 1970s onwards. The right-wing expressions of Political Islam experienced a surge, especially after the death of popular Egyptian leader and ‘Arab Socialist,’ Gamal Abdul Nasser in 1970.

Later, the bankrolling of the anti-Soviet ‘Jihad’ in Afghanistan by the US, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan in the 1980s, also became a catalyst that triggered the shifting of political and social influence in many Muslim countries from left-leaning Political Islam to its rightist expressions.

The ‘Afghan Jihad’ also added a more militant dimension to right-wing Political Islam. It reached a peak in the late 1980s after the Afghan conflict resulted in a stalemate and the Soviet forces in Afghanistan had to pull out.

In the early 1990s, encouraged by their successes in Afghanistan, the militant expressions of right-wing Political Islam began to pull away from the orbit of its former backers (US, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan), and tried to trigger ‘Islamic revolutions’ in various Muslim countries.

PWARFPWARFPWARF

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT "MODERATES"

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and thats the way they all became the Brady bunch