Thank you for disagreeing with me without downvoteing. This isn't hyperbole, I think it's a very honorable practice. Voat should learn from people like you
and I happen to be Poal's admin, and we don't consider the downvote as a "I disagree" button as mentioned in the welcome page: https://poal.co/welcome
Your example, while making an interesting argument, can't be compared to convicted gang rapists.
The HK dude was in his own country
- The 8 Iraqi rapists are muslim refugees who committed a crime in a host country especially knowing that crime is 'supposedly' punishable by death in their home country.
Deporting them back there is totally justified.
You don't want to get deported, don't commit crime in your host country. It's as simple as that.
They don't deserve empathy, since they have proven as muslims that they don't have empathy for infidels and gang rape non-muslim women as they please, like mentioned in their shitty holy books.
Yes, AOU, I understand, and understood that you guys are Admin. That doesn't diminish how much I appreciate your keeping to your own ideals. For instance, reddit claimed to be free speech and that is of course laughable. Voat claims to be free speech, and to some extent is, but heavily penalizes those who vary from the hive mind by more than 10 or 15%.
Thank you for a fair critique of my example. I agree, that deporting them to their home country is totally justified. I don't agree (obviously I may be, and am often wrong) that the death penalty is justified for rape cases (I don't trust government officials to make such a claim, but would be completely fine with a victim being found not guilty of murder by way of self defence; or a "good Samaritan" not guilty because he(most likely) or she (improbable, but possible) defended a victim with deadly force.
>Your example, while making an interesting argument, can't be compared to convicted gang rapists.
Yes you , of course, are correct. My fictitious example doesn't compare well to gang rapist mussies. Specifically tried to make a hypothetical that you might feel more empathy for to illustrate why I think exile could potentially be more appropriate as a general rule.
To some extent I suppose our (equally valid) philosophies might differ from the start. I'd prefer that 10 criminals go free if it means that one innocent person is not wrongly convicted.
>You don't want to get deported, don't commit crime in your host country. It's as simple as that.
Also agreed, generally.
>They don't deserve empathy, since they have proven as muslims that they don't have empathy for infidels
I know that this is a minority viewpoint on Poal, but I don't think that muzzies don't deserve empathy per-se. They have proven to be much more likely to engage in horrendous crime, and, as such, ought to be viewed with suspicion and caution, but that, in and of itself, does not preclude them from empathy. Anyway, just my thoughts on the issue. Thank you for sharing yours.
I agree, that deporting them to their home country is totally justified. I don't agree (obviously I may be, and am often wrong) that the death penalty is justified for rape cases
Unless you are a globalist, that matter doesn't concern you. They broke the law of a country, get punished, get sent back to their home country. What will happen there is their own responsibility. Why do you think they raped someone outside of it? Because they knew what would happen if they did in they own country.
I'd prefer that 10 criminals go free if it means that one innocent person is not wrongly convicted.
10 criminals that will go free and rape/murder more innocent people. You can't give a pass to criminals because you want to preserve an innocent person from injustice.
We need to fix the justice system.
does not preclude them from empathy.
If you aren't a muslim, you are a kaffir (infidel - plural is Kuffar). The main goal of islam is to spread around the world and turn the entire planet into a single Caliphate.
They are using our empathy to achieve it. They are outbreeding places and vote themselves into offices to change laws and use tax payers' money to fund the construction of mosques (kuffar hate universities).
Don't be mistaken. I've seen the changes they have done to demographics in places I grew up, turning these suburbs into shitholes their ancestors came from.
Its clear we won't agree on the first bit and that's ok.
They are using our empathy to achieve it. They are outbreeding places and vote themselves into offices to change laws and use tax payers' money to fund the construction of mosques (kuffar hate universities).
Yes, completely right and existentially dangerous. I still think that empathy can be used in a reasoned way. Too much empathy unbridled by wisdom or reason turns into toxic altruism, which is being used against us.
>Don't be mistaken. I've seen the changes they have done to demographics in places I grew up, turning these suburbs into shitholes their ancestors came from.
Yes and this is a huge danger when these people turn voting into a racial head-count. That is their goal. They move away from their shithole, but don’t try to assimilate (mostly, I'm sure that there are some exceptions) with no understanding that we do things better here . Mexico, Iraq, Sudan aren't shithole countries because they lack natural resources, or don't have beautiful geography, they're shitholes because of the people.
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