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Well no shit? Europeans don't have a tipping culture, America should not either. This should not shock ANYONE.

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>The World Cup does not runneth over — with decent tips. As New York City transforms into a giant international watch party, local bartenders and servers are discovering that many visitors didn’t get the memo about America’s tipping culture. An estimated 1.2 million soccer fans are flooding the region for FIFA World Cup Matches at MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, N.J., packing bars and restaurants from morning kickoffs to late-night celebrations.

Well no shit? Europeans don't have a tipping culture, America should not either. This should not shock ANYONE. Archive: https://archive.today/pMBEZ From the post: >>The World Cup does not runneth over — with decent tips. As New York City transforms into a giant international watch party, local bartenders and servers are discovering that many visitors didn’t get the memo about America’s tipping culture. An estimated 1.2 million soccer fans are flooding the region for FIFA World Cup Matches at MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, N.J., packing bars and restaurants from morning kickoffs to late-night celebrations.
[–] • 6 pts (edited )

Honestly American tipping culture is out of control anyways. I'd prefer everywhere just include a service fee and be done. I'm not tipping for counter service, if they already include a service fee or convenience fee, or for anything else that is reasonably just the service / product.

But I'm genuinely not trying to be cheap or screw a service worker. I'm just so tired of subsidizing businesses. Just give me a price. Your product / service is either worth it at your price point or it's not. If you can't afford employees at a price I'm ok with you don't have a business.

Aside from sit down resturants I haven't just stopped tipping, if they ask me for one I don't go there anymore. Cause I don't know if I'm getting ripped off or employees are, so I'm just out on it.

[–] • 4 pts

“Service fee” maybe just raise the price to cover costs like every other fucking business in the world. Fees fees fees, fuck that.

[–] • 4 pts

Exactly. Just freaking tell me what it costs. I'll either pay it or not. But when you try to run a confusopoly with fees and tipping and bs, screw it, I'm not gonna try to decipher that mess, I'm just out.

[–] • 3 pts

Yeah, that's kind of how I feel these days. I have worked tipped service jobs and I still agree with this.

[–] • 3 pts

Just got back from a trip to Columbia. All restaurants and bars ask if you want tip included (10%), and if you say no, they don't get butt hurt. American tip culture is out of control.

[–] • 2 pts

Tip culture isn't a thing. Pay the servers a real hourly wage.

[–] • 2 pts

Tips shouldn't be forced at gunpoint. They also shouldn't be mandatory. Otherwise it feels like another tax you have to pay, "or else". Recently I've seen our Russian amazon-type equivalent add a feature to include a tip for the delivery office worker. Wtf, man.

[–] • 2 pts

Restaurants and bars / pubs / taverns in Europe pay their staff well enough that patrons don't need to tip. They simply include that cost in the price of the meals. That should be universal.

[–] • 1 pt

massive sales - Boston sold out of beer over the weekend at several places - but they don't tip so the servers union is sad

[–] • 1 pt

Yet another reason why tipping culture is stupid and should not exist unless you get exceptional service and want to put in some extra to show appreciation.

As I said in the main post. I worked service jobs. Tips were nice. It didn't matter how good of a job I did, I did not get a lot or high tips but I didn't expect them anyway. (No I am not like 60 or something). I got paid shit and if the "tips didn't make it up" they were forced to pay me the min wage.

[–] • 1 pt

Nah, I am service industry trained and in it long enough to where I now engineer and deploy technology around QSR and the like, so I get it.

The low skill workers will always find someone they can rally behind for more than they deserve.