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I can't lie either and say the fact they're Jews doesn't aggravate me a little bit, but there comes a point where you have to recognize talent. I can't say these guys are trying to subvert the culture. I guess you could make the argument trance/psy/EDM, it all is kind of subversive. Frankly, music is something I argue with myself about a lot. Morally, or whatever, it's a sticky zone.

I agree with you about the sampling.

No doubt about the talent. Their musicianship is outstanding and their tracks are well written and complex. Knowing what they are is distracting though. Still listen to psytrance and other forms lf EDM occasionally; I don't think they're inherently subversive, but the modern, watered-down club shit with pop/rap vocals certainly is.