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[–] 5 pts

Not to say the pay isn't shit, but I think what a lot of these enlisted fail to take into account is all the other money they have thrown at them. Let's say they're 20 years old. They could work a retail or office job for 15 bucks an hour. Or, military 1100 bucks a month take home with free medical, BHA for food and housing (free money), commissary access, and resign bonuses every 4 years should they choose to continue. I'm not saying the military is a great job, but at that age you could do much worse.

[–] 6 pts (edited )

No more retirement at 20 anymore, Walmart is cheaper than the commissary, no one uses medical when you’re 20, living with 3 people in the same room even when the ship is in port, and working for less than money than any gas station job when you average in the number of hours actually worked. The only real upside is the technical training and bullet on the resume. I did way more years than my minimum, but I actually liked killing muzzies.

[–] 2 pts

No more retirement at 20 anymore

Not entirely sure on that, I've heard mixed things from different branches. Air Force and Space Force claim it still exists for officers, at least

Walmart is cheaper than the commissary

Not sure where you're located, but I have 2 commissaries near me, and both are cheaper than Walmart, Target, and ANY grocery store near me.

no one uses medical when you’re 20

Again, subjective.

living with 3 people in the same room even when the ship is in port

No where in the military did they claim it would be luxurious living. But that is also not the situation for many enlisted either. My area has PLENTY of enlisted, with families, living off base on BHA. Everyone's situation is different.

and working for less than money than any gas station job when you average in the number of hours actually worked.

And paying 1/3 of your check for medical, assuming it's even offered in the first place. No chance for retirement, or even a 401k. Paying full price for groceries. No allotment to help pay rent in part or in full. No VA loans. No USAA banking for cheaper insurance. Yeah, gas station is a much better choice.....

The only real upside is the technical training and bullet on the resume.

After discharge, ANYONE who serves and is honorable has preference in hiring for a job they are qualified for. Not only do they make better employees (in general, not always), but employers are giving tax incentives to hire them. So if you got ANY kind of technical training, there's a good chance when you're out you have avenues for good paying jobs. And that's assuming you decide not to do 20 or more.

I did way more years than my minimum, but I actually liked killing muzzies.

Thank you very much for your service, sir. And God bless you for your sacrifice

[–] 2 pts (edited )

Va loans are a joke too. I ended up getting a conventional loan because the rates were far better, and even if so much as a doorknob is broken, it has to be fixed before they will allow the va loan to go through. VA loans are a bad joke unless you have completely ruined your credit.

It’s honestly funny hearing how good people who aren’t in the military think we have it. Sorry dude, most of what you’re putting down simply isn’t true. Having worked both sides of the equation myself I can tell you it’s just not what you think it to be, and we’re going to have to agree to disagree on almost everything you’re asserting, aside from low level job prospects with an honorable.

In any case, have a good evening.

[–] 1 pt

They are so fucking annoyingly stupid. They thought they would make 100k+/yr as a grunt and never have to do anything? What is wrong with these morons.

[–] 4 pts (edited )

I've spoken with a lot of military people. Few seem to understand what they are getting as compensation. Accordingly, they drastically undervalue their compensation. That's not to say they are wealthy. But as a whole, they are extremely well compensated outside of battlefield conditions. Opportunity for advancement, education, and benefits is enormous.

All things equal, in general, military people complaining about pay is a good indicator they are incompetent and unqualified for their current position and/or advancement. They should feel lucky receiving what they do.

[–] 4 pts

Especially at the age range that they get it. All I threw in there was the immediate compensation avenues. That does not include hazard pay (which most of the time isn't hazard, just means you're deployed to a "hazardous area"), VA loans, VA schooling, family benefits for wife and kids, VA medical after discharge (good or bad, it IS free), CONTINUED commissary access, access to banks with amazing rates like USAA and Navy Fed, and a general discount at almost any store or service just by flashing your CAC card. When I graduated high school, my good buddy joined the navy and tried to get me to join, even offering to share the recruiting bonus he got with me. Now, decades later, I KICK myself for not doing even 4 years rather than wasting my early 20s chasing a jew and going from apartment to apartment.

[–] 1 pt

These goyim need to stop whining about pay and be grateful to even have the opportunity to die for Israel.

[–] 2 pts

They seem stuck on the 'Eat the bugs and be unhappy'. Gotta turn that frown upside down Private.

[–] 0 pt

Get in the pod. Eat the bugs. You will own nothing and we don't give a fuck about you.