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When I got to my ship in SF in 1980 the bars in the city still refused to serve military. When I lived in a 30 man berthing area for 2 1/2 years nobody thanked me. Friends of mine that came back from nam were spit on. People say that shit to make themselves feel better. And no. Some E-2 peeling spuds on KP duty stateside is not a fukn hero!

When I got to my ship in SF in 1980 the bars in the city still refused to serve military. When I lived in a 30 man berthing area for 2 1/2 years nobody thanked me. Friends of mine that came back from nam were spit on. People say that shit to make themselves feel better. And no. Some E-2 peeling spuds on KP duty stateside is not a fukn hero!

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I think thats why most civilians do it as a sign of respect. My thing is if you actually cared, you'd serve. But the military is a woke joke now. The lack of real leadership is disgusting.