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[–] [deleted] 3 pts

Why live without meat?

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Cow farts and carbon bad! Life bad! White man bad!

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I can live healthy and happy to over 100 by eating meat, or I can wish I was dead being a vegan at 60 and break all of my bones by 70.

Years ago before the onion got bought by clinton, they published an article along the lines of "Man who swallows a tablespoon of fish oil a day gives himself six more years of life to swallow fish oil everyday." At the end of the article the guy says he doesn't want to die early like his father who died of a heart attack at a backyard barbecue after eating the best ribs of his life.

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in an interesting twist, 30% of men didnt really understand the question. its really 100%. Stop fucking around with my steak

What exactly is the charm of living long? You'll be living riddled with end of life diseases, you won't be able to do a lot of physical activities, you're living off of retirement if there is any, you're essentially a net negative and a liability to the society, and you're constantly wishing you were already dead. Other than the fear of death, living long is possibly the most overrated and misguided goal someone can ever have.

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To continue to see your grand-children and great-grandchildren prosper. And there's nothing saying you can't stay relatively healthy till the end.

As for being a net negative to society, you overlook the wisdom that old man can give to the younger men in his life, and everything he has already done during all the productive decades of his long life.

Most people do not live with their grandparents. They get shipped out to senior living facilities or they live by themselves. The wisdom they could share and the joy they could get from seeing their children are miniscule compared to the resources and the space they take up, which could have all gone towards the younger generations.

I suppose it would also have to do with the age that's on my mind, and I would probably peg it around 65 and older when they have effectively retired from the workforce. From then on, I believe living longer than that would be causing more problems for the society as a whole.

As for the wisdom, it's not a given that all old people have great wisdom to share that which cannot be obtained via the internet, and I would also argue that their cognitive and physical decline will also get in the way of effectively sharing their wisdom.

There's also a difference between living healthy to raise the quality of life and just so happening to live long and living with an intent to live long and expending all assets to keep the life going. The hospitals insist on extending the life of the patient in order to make profit from drugs and procedures, but I doubt they have the patient's quality of life in mind.

[–] [deleted] 0 pt (edited )

i've been vegan for 19 years, vegetarian for 24 years. i'm convinced that eating meat is an addiction. after 6 months of being vegetarian, i didn't want mammals' meat: cows, pigs, etc. it was harder to stop eating chicken, turkey, etc. but i don't want to eat them, anymore. sometimes, i still want to eat fish and shellfish. but i don't.

it wasn't easy to stop eating cheese and drinking milk. it took me 5 years.

p.s. i admit that veganism can be risky. vitamin & mineral supplements such as vitamin d and b12 are necessary.

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i'm convinced that eating meat is an addiction.

Eating is an addiction.

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I'm calling bullshit that meat makes you live shorter. Meanwhile the kikes that push out these articles are having $400 steaks every other day.