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Human sacrifice is a jewish right and no one should be allowed to stop them sacrificing babies to moloch

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A broken clock is right twice a day. Banning abortion is the worse thing you can do. Abortion is literally our last eugenic measure with popular support. Ban it and we'll leap forward to Idiocracy.

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Eugenics only works in our favour in a world without Jews, in which Eugenics would no longer be necessary, therefor I am against murdering babies while the kikes are in control. It will turn out as Eugenics that wipe us out, that's for sure.

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Eugenics would still be necessary, because industrialization has wiped out any negative selection pressures on having kids. Famines are history, and no one needs to chop wood to prepare for winter. Any moron can get a job as a janitor and still afford to raise 6 kids at a bare level, but the brainy inventors and CEOs running the place have no time for parenting. If you haven't noticed, eugenics is toxic to the jewish narrative because it affirms hierarchy, and they can only get their multi-racial coalition to work in the absence of hierarchy.

Blacks in South Africa or Zimbabwe don't need to appeal to eugenics to kill the whites, it's not even something they could understand. They simply say, "they have stuff that we want!" and fetch the machetes.

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Can also be achieved through sterilization, preventing any murder of babies. Either way i'm down with it if its in our favour.

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Even without the Jews, you can't avoid turning your country into a shithole without the proper selection pressures. This will just speed up the process.

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Unlike Socialism, which has been tried over and over and fails every time. We haven't had a society free of jews in any part of our written history so to make that claim is baseless.

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Accelerationism?

Perhaps when shitskins have taken over every walk of normal life, the real war will begin.

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Yes. But unfortunately you can't really recover from it due to all the intermixing going on. Just think of places like Greece and Macedonia... all southern Europe was ethnically destroyed by mixing with the Muslims.... that's forever gone.

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Racemixing isn't as common as kike media portrays. Not nearly so common. It's something like 7% total for White women/non-White male.

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Alright, I have the solution

Whites are barred from abortion programs because white supremacism, meanwhile all the POCniggers and kikes can abort at will, no time limit, no nothing free abortion for everyone

That way everybody is happy

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'judeo-Christian values' is an oxymoron

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To be fair, I'm all for letting that tribe abort themselves into oblivion.

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there is no such thing as anti-semitic blood libel

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If Jews=Baby Killers, then we need to repeal all of the Blood Libel charges since time immemorial. And then get rid of all the jews.

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"Judeo Christian " is such an oxymoron I just either say Christian or Graco Christian. She sounds like she doesn't like when kike degeneracy is subverted as equally as Christians hate when jews Shit in the metaphorical Wells of Western European Society and Civilization as a whole.

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"It is better to cast your seed in the belly of a whore than spill it on the ground.”

Those yids most not have read Torah. Stupid Kazarians....

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Judaism isn't based on the torah aka "written law" but the talmud aka "oral law", which is a compilation of interpretations of the torah by rabbis

It hasn't always been that way, it's that way since sadducees disappeared https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/pharisees-sadducees-and-essenes

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/abortion-in-jewish-thought/

Jewish law does not share the belief common among abortion opponents that life begins at conception, nor does it legally consider the fetus to be a full person deserving of protections equal those accorded to human beings. In Jewish law, a fetus attains the status of a full person only at birth. Sources in the Talmud indicate that prior to 40 days of gestation, the fetus has an even more limited legal status, with one Talmudic authority (Yevamot 69b) asserting that prior to 40 days the fetus is “mere water.” Elsewhere, the Talmud indicates that the ancient rabbis regarded a fetus as part of its mother throughout the pregnancy, dependent fully on her for its life — a view that echoes the position that women should be free to make decisions concerning their own bodies.

At the same time, feticide is prohibited by Jewish law, though there is disagreement over the exact source of this prohibition and how serious an infraction it is. Some consider it biblical in origin based on a verse (Genesis 9.6) that prohibits shedding the “blood of man within man” — a phrase understood to refer to a fetus. Moreover, Judaism teaches that the body is ultimately the property of God and is merely on loan to human beings. Multiple prohibitions in Jewish law— including prohibitions on suicide, getting tattoos and wounding oneself— collectively serve to reject the idea that individuals enjoy an unfettered right to make choices regarding their own bodies.

As a public policy matter, many of the major American Jewish organizations have been vocal in support of broadening or protecting abortion access. Orthodox organizations, however, do not support broad legal protections for abortion. A 2019 New York law liberalizing the state’s abortion laws was opposed by both the Rabbinical Council of America and Agudath Israel of America, two major Orthodox groups, though both groups have been explicit that laws banning abortions in late pregnancy when a mother’s life is at risk run afoul of Jewish teachings.

Does Jewish law ever explicitly permit abortions? Yes, but only under very limited circumstances. The most common situation, explicitly described in the Mishnah , is where the mother’s life is imperiled by her pregnancy. Some consider such an abortion not merely permissible, but mandatory. However, once the baby’s head has emerged from the mother (some authorities say the majority of its body, some say merely any limb), termination is no longer allowed, since Jewish law does not permit sacrificing one life to save another.

Short of clear threats to a mother’s life, the permissibility of abortion is controversial in Jewish texts. There are Orthodox rabbinic sources that support abortion when a mother’s health is in danger even if her life is not at risk; when a fetus is conclusively determined to suffer from severe abnormalities; when a mother’s mental health is in danger; or when the pregnancy is the result of a forbidden sexual union. However, these rulings are not universally accepted, and many Orthodox rabbis are cautious about laying down firm standards, insisting instead that cases be judged individually.

The Conservative movement is somewhat more lenient in all these cases, explicitly understanding threats to a mother’s life as extending to psychological threats to her mental well-being. In 1983, the Conservative movement’s rabbinical authorities permitted abortion only “if a continuation of pregnancy might cause the mother severe physical or psychological harm, or when the fetus is judged by competent medical opinion as severely defective.”

The Reform movement has historically taken a similar approach. In 1958, the movement’s rabbinate determined that abortion is permitted for sake of the mother’s mental well-being if there is “strong preponderance of medical opinion that the child will be born imperfect physically, and even mentally.” In 1985, the psychological justification was explicitly extended to cases of rape and incest, while emphasizing opposition to abortion for “trivial reasons” or “on demand.” In published responsa, the movement has rejected abortion in cases where the birth might pose hardships for other family members. At the same time, both the Reform and Conservative rabbinates have been vocal in support of keeping abortion legal and accessible.

Is abortion discussed in ancient sources? The Torah does not address the issue directly. The principal biblical source for Jewish law on abortion is a passage in Exodus (Exodus 21:22-23) concerning a case in which two men are fighting and injure a pregnant woman, causing her to miscarry. The verse states that if no other harm is done, the person who caused the damage must pay compensatory damages, but if there is further harm, then he should pay with his life. The common rabbinic interpretation is that if the only harm that comes to the woman is the loss of the fetus, it is treated as a case of property damage — not murder.

The later rabbinic sources address the issue more directly, beginning with the Mishnah referenced above. Elsewhere, the Mishnah says that if a pregnant woman is sentenced to death, the execution can go forward provided she has not yet gone into labor, a further indication that Jewish law does not accord the fetus full human rights prior to birth.

That is one hell of an effort post. Bravo and thanks.

More seriously, you gave me a lot to think about with respect to the talmud and added specificity to the subject.

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The Jews had multiple sects, just like Christians do and they all have different interpretations of their scripture, just like Christians do.

For example of another jewish sect at the time of sadducees:

John the Baptist was a Essenes preacher who formed his own messianic sect and circumcised Jesus according to the jewish tradition and declaring him as King of all Jews

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There's no biblical or historical element directly proving that john was an essene. Maybe he was one of them at some point, that's not something I would rule out entirely. But there's no element suggesting he circumcised jesus, at least as far as I'm aware of.

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Why do they have to be good looking. Fuck