This is normal. Teachers assume a baseline of expectation of students but don't realize that baseline is too low or too slow for students. I did not understand why highschool sucked until I realized that it was structured for industrial piecemeal education instead of in depth full concept studying. Basically high school was too slow for me and every kid of that generation.
It must be a lot worse now.
This sounds a lot like that. What the teacher calls "playing" the kids call pedestrian, too slow and not sophisticated enough. The kids are way ahead of the teacher, to the degree that I can infer any of that from the example.
I think this is more a Huxley scenario than the kids being advanced in some way. Tablets and such are vastly superior dopamine engines than Lincoln logs. Kids more susceptible to increases in the reward pathway threshold aren't going to be entertained by less technologically advanced activities.
Whether this is causing some sort of harm to their development is still questionable and not particularly well studied. I think one can speculate it is an inevitable issue though, with the main question being have we created sufficiently stimulating devices to create something akin to drug use yet.
This is a really great point.
with the main question being have we created sufficiently stimulating devices to create something akin to drug use yet.
I'm fairly certain that TV watching...I mean the way normies do it, hours and hours completely tuned out of their surroundings...has been proven to mimic the effects of heroin use.
My wife and I have a very busy 2 year old, and a 3 month old. Sometimes we need him to just relax and not try to climb on stools and the kitchen countertops. It's also winter, so sending him outside is not really an option. So we will turn on the TV for a half an hour while I make supper and she puts the baby down for a nap.
It's disturbing to see how instantly hypnotized he is by the glowing jewish screen.
years back before cell phones and tablets were so common late 90s early 00s they had these little Einstein videos, parents would camp their baby or toddler in front of the videos all day because it was "educational" there ended up being studies and articles coming out claiming it was making the kids autistic and setting them back from their peers.
the autistic label gets thrown onto everything it seems, but setting them back from their peers seems more plausible.
Yeah it's like tripping balls on acid every weekend for a year and then wondering why pot just doesn't cut it for you anymore. You build up a tolerance to the stimulation and mundane stuff is not going to cut it.
At the same time some of this is just the teacher being way out of touch. Slenderman and Sirenhead and crap are just trendy memes, they come from SCP wikis and some artists drawings, they are modded into all sorts of games and crap because using the models isn't going to get you sued. They are supposed to be creepy, they are the new boogie-men for the internet age. Kids latch onto them because they don't have a concept of cringe. This bitch would have been complaining about Tamagachis and Super Mario and Sonic in my day.
Technology can make learning way more immersive and enjoyable and that's half the reason the teachers fear it, it makes them obsolete, it obliterates the small shreds of power they hold. At the same time it's centralized for efficiency and this lends to total control and breaks all sorts of societal failsafes (that aren't doing us too much good right now anyway, see the commie teachers unions).
... It's a real mixed bag and I don't trust normie society to navigate the issue well.
I went to private school every year exept for one. I ended up taking the standardized test the year in public school. When we got the results, I scored 5/5 in all areas. I joked that obviously I would, ghe test was so easy. After I finished that sentence, I noticed the guys scores next to me 2\5 another person 3\5. I quickly realized I should shut the fuck up because no one else was close to me. Classes were a joke, I was learning things I learned in 5th and 6th grade. Total fucking joke. Only salvation was the technology dept with wood shop, computer lab and robotics. Even then it was only 15 students in a school of 3500+.
I had first hand experience with both public and private schooling. I switched schools after my high school sophomore year - I went from a catholic college prep school to a public school in a suburb.
I had to switch schools because the catholic one raised their tuition and my parents wanted to move out of the city. I went from an average/below average student to an honor student at the public school. Like 2.0 to 4.0 in less than a year. I struggled at the private school because they loaded students down with homework - an average of 3 hours a night, while the public school gave us about an hour's worth. In fact, some of the regular classes I took at the private school ended up being honors classes at my public school - like chemistry.
You're not wrong...I was way to "advanced" for my public school education too, but I don't think that explains the effects of children being raised by smart devices. It's disturbing to say the least.
Just wanted to comment on your quoting the "advanced" bit. Thinking about this a bit more, what I meant by industrial style peacemal learning is the whole get to school, do a course on math at some random time for about an hour, period rings / run around get some books, take another class for 1 hour, period rings have lunch, then do another independent 2 hour learning sessions on some random subject.
That is NOT how humans learn. That is how you build cars in a factory sure. Maybe if you setup a repeatable learning procedure on a specific sub topic, a project or some actionable thing you might be able to schedule production line system for a while, but noise and chaos always creep in and keeping a production line going is hard.
This just isn't how human brains learn.
We have a lot of tech people here and anyone like that or similar that has to learn new things or embed them selves into a subject matter to REALLY learn it know that:
1) There is a spool up period. Your brain needs to downregulate various subsystems and give your higher order thinking subsystems time to get into the zone.
2) You MUST spend extended periods of time on a specific topic to get any learning or coding done. It's just the way it is, you cannot have perpetual interruptions. You cannot slice it up into 1 hour periods, ring a bell, run around like a monkey without a head finding the right books and running to the next 1 hour slice of time to learn SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
Sure, you need breaks and sometimes you get into an intellectual cul de sac and need to do something else to see a problem from a new direction, but mostly you need to get into the zone and run the zone for a whole bunch of hours.
3) You need to learn only a FEW things at a time. Sure, there are tangents and sometimes you need to veer off for a bit to see how what you are learning relates to something else, but mostly you cannot be learning 4 different things at the same time.
It is a bit of a miracle that education works at all.
I know this is an area many have tried changing how we teach kids, my thinking on this is that it doesn't take a huge change. Learn fewer things for a longer period of time with fewer disruptions while keeping your social groups intact for longer. Mostly we have to take our kids out of public schools and HEAVILY organize local learning groups led by competent and fireable learning guides.
Just a few thoughts.
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