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They may not have doctorate degrees, and may not have even finished high school.

That simply means they lack a formal education.

It does not mean they're not smart.

No, they have to be pretty smart 'cause Mother Nature weeds out many of the dumbest. They are often mechanically inclined, as well.

I think the word I'm looking for is 'ingenious.' However, I'm kinda inebriated and there's many words to choose from. Clever, practical, pragmatic, industrious, and determined - those are all fine words.

These are, of course, just broad strokes that I'm painting with and not all Mainers are the same. They're also not the same if you change regions, or if you go to more urban areas.

Now, I shall give you an example!

For those that don't recall, I bought the neighboring farm for a variety of reasons. My actual primary reason was because I didn't want shitty new neighbors.

The farm was the closest property that wasn't owned by me. I like to make noise and have fun. The owners of the farm not only didn't mind, but they'd often come investigate and hang out with me - or wait and ask me about the noise when they next saw me.

By noise, I mean set up stuff like an entire night of various bands playing music on my lawn.

Yup... My seventy and eighty year old neighbors will come over and join us - so long as they had their work done and would still be able to attend to their day's work back on the farm. I've had 'em dancing on my lawn, on multiple occasions.

They also took care of the environment. No, they're not environmentalist hippies - but they didn't rape the forests, poach all the furry woodland critters, and leave messes for the EPA to come in and scream about. They don't leave derelict vehicles scattered throughout the property where they leak fluids into the soil. (They drain the fluids and leave the old tractors and farm trucks as decorations - but they're drained and not harming the environment.)

It's a matter of respect for them - they respect the land that provided their livelihood. If they chop all the trees down, they'll have no more trees to harvest, that sort of thing.

I didn't want some asshole from New York coming in, starting a pig farm that'd fail and then they'd have to chop the trees down to afford the taxes. That'd trash the land and, more importantly, they might not like that I make the entire valley echo with music. They'd change things - and I like things just the way they are. That is, after all, why I live here.

I didn't move in and be the asshole new neighbor from out of state (or, as they say, "from away"). I sure as hell didn't want anyone else to do that - at least not in my neighborhood. I moved in and, for the most part, I adapted to fit within the community. In my opinion, that's the correct way to do things. (Obviously... If it wasn't how I felt I should do things, I'd have done things differently.)

So, I bought the farm. (The story is actually much, much longer!)

Anyhow...

Mainers are smart...

Word gets out about this sort of thing. Another neighbor put two and two together and realized that I didn't want shitty neighbors.

I went out with some friends tonight and bumped into that neighbor.

We engaged in some small talk. I like this neighbor, I really do. They're awfully busy, so I don't get to see them that often. But, they have a cunning plan! They're testing the waters. They let me know that they're "thinking about" selling the place.

They're the next property in line, in that direction. They're down past the farm and quite a ways down the road.

When I realized what they were doing, I didn't mince words and directly asked 'em if they were trying to see if I was interested in buying their acreage.

They said they were.

I said I wasn't really interested at this time and didn't see any reason why I'd actually want their acreage.

Which is when they told me that they were going to sell it to his brother-in-law from Massachusetts. (Which Mainers often call 'Massholes.")

I immediately called their bluff and we laughed a great deal.

I don't think he even has a BIL from Massachusetts!

I know damned well he didn't even ask his wife - 'cause she asked him what he was on about when she heard us laughing.

Clever, very clever.

If you're curious, they've only got like 35 acres with a four bedroom house and a two bay garage. It'd be a nice starter plot for someone - and everything's in fine condition, so there's no need to repair the house. It's not a fixer-upper, or anything. I guess the place was built in the 1980s. It's even got a finished basement.

He also says he doesn't care what his wife says, and he'll sell the place for $150,000. I'm pretty sure that's not actually true - 'cause his wife is bigger than he is.

But, the point is that he's smart. If he can sell it directly to me, he doesn't have to pay the realtor anything and doesn't have to deal with the hassles associated with putting it on the market. And, he knows damned well that I don't want shitty new neighbors.

No, I'm not buying their property! I don't need it and I don't even want it. If a shitty new neighbor moved in on their property, I'd not even have to deal with 'em. They're too far away for me to give a shit.

Still, their idea was brilliant, as was their ploy to threaten me with a "Masshole."

They may not have doctorate degrees, and may not have even finished high school. That simply means they lack a formal education. It does not mean they're not smart. No, they have to be pretty smart 'cause Mother Nature weeds out many of the dumbest. They are often mechanically inclined, as well. I think the word I'm looking for is 'ingenious.' However, I'm kinda inebriated and there's many words to choose from. Clever, practical, pragmatic, industrious, and determined - those are all fine words. These are, of course, just broad strokes that I'm painting with and not all Mainers are the same. They're also not the same if you change regions, or if you go to more urban areas. **Now, I shall give you an example!** For those that don't recall, I bought the neighboring farm for a variety of reasons. My *actual* primary reason was because I didn't want shitty new neighbors. The farm was the closest property that wasn't owned by me. I like to make noise and have fun. The owners of the farm not only didn't mind, but they'd often come investigate and hang out with me - or wait and ask me about the noise when they next saw me. By noise, I mean set up stuff like an entire night of various bands playing music on my lawn. Yup... My seventy and eighty year old neighbors will come over and join us - so long as they had their work done and would still be able to attend to their day's work back on the farm. I've had 'em dancing on my lawn, on multiple occasions. They also took care of the environment. No, they're not environmentalist hippies - but they didn't rape the forests, poach all the furry woodland critters, and leave messes for the EPA to come in and scream about. They don't leave derelict vehicles scattered throughout the property where they leak fluids into the soil. (They drain the fluids and leave the old tractors and farm trucks as decorations - but they're drained and not harming the environment.) It's a matter of respect for them - they respect the land that provided their livelihood. If they chop all the trees down, they'll have no more trees to harvest, that sort of thing. I didn't want some asshole from New York coming in, starting a pig farm that'd fail and then they'd have to chop the trees down to afford the taxes. That'd trash the land and, more importantly, they might not like that I make the entire valley echo with music. They'd change things - and I like things just the way they are. That is, after all, why I live here. I didn't move in and be the asshole new neighbor from out of state (or, as they say, "from away"). I sure as hell didn't want anyone else to do that - at least not in my neighborhood. I moved in and, for the most part, I adapted to fit within the community. In my opinion, that's the correct way to do things. (Obviously... If it wasn't how I felt I should do things, I'd have done things differently.) So, I bought the farm. (The story is actually much, much longer!) Anyhow... Mainers are smart... Word gets out about this sort of thing. Another neighbor put two and two together and realized that I didn't want shitty neighbors. I went out with some friends tonight and bumped into that neighbor. We engaged in some small talk. I like this neighbor, I really do. They're awfully busy, so I don't get to see them that often. But, they have a cunning plan! They're testing the waters. They let me know that they're "*thinking about*" selling the place. They're the *next* property in line, in that direction. They're down past the farm and quite a ways down the road. When I realized what they were doing, I didn't mince words and directly asked 'em if they were trying to see if I was interested in buying their acreage. They said they were. I said I wasn't really interested at this time and didn't see any reason why I'd actually want their acreage. Which is when they told me that they were going to sell it to his brother-in-law from Massachusetts. (Which Mainers often call 'Massholes.") I immediately called their bluff and we laughed a great deal. I don't think he even has a BIL from Massachusetts! I know damned well he didn't even ask his wife - 'cause she asked him what he was on about when she heard us laughing. Clever, very clever. If you're curious, they've only got like 35 acres with a four bedroom house and a two bay garage. It'd be a nice starter plot for someone - and everything's in fine condition, so there's no need to repair the house. It's not a fixer-upper, or anything. I guess the place was built in the 1980s. It's even got a finished basement. He also says he doesn't care what his wife says, and he'll sell the place for $150,000. I'm pretty sure that's not actually true - 'cause his wife is bigger than he is. But, the point is that he's smart. If he can sell it directly to me, he doesn't have to pay the realtor anything and doesn't have to deal with the hassles associated with putting it on the market. And, he knows damned well that I don't want shitty new neighbors. No, I'm not buying their property! I don't need it and I don't even want it. If a shitty new neighbor moved in on their property, I'd not even have to deal with 'em. They're too far away for me to give a shit. Still, their idea was brilliant, as was their ploy to threaten me with a "Masshole."

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150,000 is a lot of money, I bought my house for 50,000 dollars and I don't like being in debt even that much. I'd have to agree that your neighbors plan was smart. I'm not exactly sure where I am going with this other than to say that it sounds like Maine is just a different world than the one I live in.

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It's a bit of land and a nice house with a garage. A rough guess would say it's probably able to be sold for a bit more than that.

At the end of the day, I'm still not buying his damned house! LOL I have no need for his house. He can sell it to the biggest asshole in the world and it will have zero impact on my life. They could set bombs off at that house and I'd never hear them from inside my house - and might not even hear 'em if I'm on the lawn. I've never checked the exact distance, but it's close to five miles down the road.

I can't even come up with a warped and twisted bit of logic that'd justify my buying their property. Normally, I can rationalize all sorts of shit, but I can't think of a good reason to buy their house.

LOL I can come up with a reason to buy a fuzzy hat with a harmonica embroidered on it, but I can't come up with a reason to buy their house. They could be planning to sell their house to a cult, and I'd still not have a reason to buy it!

I'd say you should buy it - but the upload speeds are gonna be abysmal. They keep telling me that they're going to put fiber in - but it's already cold, so I don't think that's going to happen this year. It was down to 30° last night.

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Crap I couldn't afford that! Are you crazy 150,000! That would cost way more per month than I have ever been able to afford. Maine sounds awesome it does don't get me wrong. I might even move there someday if I ever become wealthy. If nothing else for the food. Maine has some damn good food.

It sure would be nice to have some land. I'd say you should buy it, if you can afford it. However I also would say you shouldn't because up keeping another house would be a lot of work and you have plenty to do already. I suppose my saying you should is just because if I could I would.

I could probably live with the upload speeds if I had the money to live out there I'd probably just host everything off site at that point. I'm sure the upload would be good enough to have a conversation over voice. Or I'd go the LTE route. Either way I could figure out a solution I'm pretty good at that.

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That's not too bad for that much acreage and a nice house. I'm pretty sure they said they had 35 acres. It's uncut (as far as I know) so you could probably pay the mortgage and taxes with TSI (sustainable logging), if you did the work yourself. From the road, it looks like it's mostly hardwood, so firewood and then sell the logs twice a year.

35 acres isn't a bad size for a starter plot. With the house and land, that's not bad at all. There's much cheaper property, but they've got a pretty nice house. Hell, they even put new solar panels on a couple of years ago.

But, there's NO jobs locally - and not many that are close AND pay well.

I'm not sure what they get for cell phone speed/service. I'm at a higher elevation than they are and am closer to the village than they are. I get two bars - when I get service. Depending on the weather and season (I'm pretty sure it's the leaves scattering the radio waves), I may get fewer bars and I don't get good penetration inside my house. Outside is quite a bit better and standing near a window seems to help.

I'm also pretty sure that we still only get 3G. :-/