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CNN, BBC, NBC say so! Hum, lets look at https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths Compare with let say France and Italy. Hum, well that is interesting.

CNN, BBC, NBC say so! Hum, lets look at https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths Compare with let say France and Italy. Hum, well that is interesting.

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Perhaps, but if this information is being withheld for a public health crisis, it suggests something is wrong with it.

I have to stick to my original points. Without a control group, without normalizing the other data for time, temperatures, etc., without accurate and reliable diagnostic methods, without the hysteria of calling everything a COVID case and every death a COVID death - the numbers are simply bullshit.

If you want to base an argument on something, that’s fine but don’t do it on faulty testing methodology.

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There’s a chance they’ve published it somewhere, for example during one of the conferences they hold every couple of days, however I’ve not watched them all.

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I’ll look if I have some time. Numbers are interesting to me.

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I appreciate the coherent and thought out replies coming from you, and for being so objective.

It makes a fresh change to the usual drivel that comes out of this site.